I don’t even consider “sites” that only work on mobile apps to be “the internet”
#21
(12-24-2018, 03:46 PM)Guest Wrote: Oh wait, here you go.

Change "Guest" to "NPC" and change the avatar to this:

https://imgur.com/a/ROZEu4q

ROFLROFL, good onnneee!

So did you say you don't even have a forum anymore?

I just don't understand why.

You should at least have one and implement these ideas!
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#22
I do not want to run a forum again. Ever.

If I ran one, it would be a free speech forum where anons can post without their posts being approved. I'm not interested in being a nazi mod and telling people what they can and cannot say. I wouldn't consider it a case of "behave yourself in my house" or anything like that. It would just be a neutral public platform.

The problem with that is, there's no end to the grief the fuckwits dish out. Giving them total freedom to show their arses makes them spoiled rotten. No matter what the moderators do, it will piss off one faction or the other. When they get pissed off, they do their dead level best to destroy the board, get the hosting company to deplatform it, use SQL and HTML injection attacks, spam, and topic flooding to deface the board, etc. It's incredibly difficult to harden an open access platform against all of that.

Not to mention the constant whining about their freedom of speech being suppressed when they try to disrupt the board, even though you're literally letting them get away with 1000 times the shit a "normal" board admin would.

It's a whole different ball game from running a site that has front line defenses like registration and moderator approval, and enforces a more or less mainstream code of conduct. Yeah, the owners who succeed in making their boards immune to abuse end up with software that's vastly superior to off-the-shelf forum packages, but it's exhausting to cover every angle. That's why free speech anon boards usually don't last more than 2 or 3 years. The owners get fed up and quit.
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#23
Ah yeah...

I mean, you either go balls to the wall 'freedom', or you pull the 'my house/don't shit on the rug' bit.

As far as how long the forums last...

shrug

They last until they're done.

It is what it is.

As long as everything is saved, who cares.

I save all my writings, and really, the forum platform is just what tricks me into writing.

I don't really run a forum for the community aspect, I run it so there is a format where I am coaxed into typing lots of words.

That's literally the only purpose (for me) and that can be achieved whether I'm alone, or on a site with 1000 users.

It just really doesn't matter.
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#24
(12-24-2018, 05:51 PM)Trix Wrote: I mean, you either go balls to the wall 'freedom', or you pull the 'my house/don't shit on the rug' bit.

I suppose I could deal with running a three-tier forum where the anons and regs have separate forums (fora?), plus an elitist "inner circle" for the paying (or at least trusted) members.

I'd still have to come down there and smack the anons around when they got unruly though. I just don't like being a moderator. I'd rather have conversations and let someone else handle the behind the scenes work.

(12-24-2018, 05:51 PM)Trix Wrote: As far as how long the forums last...

shrug

They last until they're done.

Which in anon board terms is when the sysop gets tired of the mindless, repetitive OCD rubbish and pulls the plug.

(12-24-2018, 05:51 PM)Trix Wrote: [Writing is] literally the only purpose (for me) and that can be achieved whether I'm alone, or on a site with 1000 users.

Why a forum instead of a blog? Although the only technical difference would be the blog owner is the OP of every thread.

I used to write textfiles and uploading them to BBSes. I can't really get into the spirit of it without my MS-DOS machine and WordStar. Using period correct gear makes a difference.

Plus I'd need all of my hobby stuff because that was what I wrote about. Now all I do is watch YouTube. The other BBSers aren't watching YouTube on their Apple IIs and Commodore 64s, so they wouldn't be a particularly receptive audience. A lot of the threads here are about YouTubers, so here I am.
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#25
(12-24-2018, 07:17 PM)Guest Wrote: Why a forum instead of a blog?

The first platform I ever used which sparked my creative writing was a message board.

There's something about the 'Reply'/'Post Reply' or 'New Thread' thing that lights it up.

It was forum members who were creative writers who inspired me to try my hand at it.

I always liked chatrooms, but then message boards came along and blew that shit out of the water...

I still love chatrooms, but I don't find them efficient because (most of the time) text isn't saved and it's just lost forever.

I also think saving chat transcripts takes away the magic of a chatroom; it's supposed to be an 'off the record' fleeting experience where you can get crazy and nothing is saved.

So...

In my love for efficiency (saving all the word thingies, never having to repeat the word thingies, etc.) I chose the forum platform over anything else.

I've tried to get into the blog format, but it's just... so fucking boring to me. I'm attempting something similar with another website, but it's not going to be 100% focused on the blog aspect; the blog is just one part of it. But... yeah I have no intention of actually using that platform to write at length. That's just not what it's about...

If I want to write at length, I'll use a forum. Any forum.
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#26
(12-24-2018, 07:17 PM)Guest Wrote: A lot of the threads here are about YouTubers, so here I am.

One of my niche dreams since circa 2013 was to have a message board where all the YouTubers could be discussed.

I don't like making message boards around specific topics though...

It's not my cup of tea and I ultimately learned that it's best not to have a set topic, and then just mish-mash all your interests together.

Would it work for everybody? Nah. Is that what makes variety in the fuckin' universe? Yup.
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#27
(12-24-2018, 09:33 PM)Trix Wrote: I always liked chatrooms, but then message boards came along and blew that shit out of the water...

That's what happened with me. In fact, I think I was first introduced to forums by people I orginally met in chatrooms.

(12-24-2018, 09:33 PM)Trix Wrote: I've tried to get into the blog format, but it's just... so fucking boring to me. I'm attempting something similar with another website, but it's not going to be 100% focused on the blog aspect; the blog is just one part of it.

Tell me more about this format. I'm trying to come up with an idea for a program that combines aspects of forums, blogs, and yes, even a social media style feed or timeline. But I want to put a novel spin on it rather than duplicate what's already out there. And I want to specifically avoid having it morph into a vast centralized monstrosity like Faecesbook and Twatter. I want to create something that individuals or small groups can easily install and use on their own websites.
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#28
(12-24-2018, 10:04 PM)Guest Wrote: Tell me more about this format.

I'm just using Wordpress for this project I'm referencing. Nothing special at all. It's just an attempt to see if I can... EVER successfully use a blog. I'm actually just doing the blog part of it for the utilization of search results based on the titles/URLs. I dunno.

(12-24-2018, 10:04 PM)Guest Wrote: I want to create something that individuals or small groups can easily install and use on their own websites.

It sounds like you really already know what you want to make. I don't think I can add anything to that because I've thought about making a platform like that for years but I've never done it. And I'm not even as equipped as you. So just do it man.
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#29
(12-24-2018, 10:08 PM)Trix Wrote: It sounds like you really already know what you want to make.

I really don't though.

I know there's gonna be a webring component where like-minded sites can be loosely affiliated without sharing content and user data. Each site should be its own distinct community, but still provide a way to explore related communities.

There will be a blog(ish) component and/or a forum(ish) component. Having both might be redundant since they function similarly. I don't have any novel ideas about how to combine the two though.

(12-24-2018, 10:08 PM)Trix Wrote: I've thought about making a platform like that for years but I've never done it. And I'm not even as equipped as you.

Sounds like you do have some ideas then. I'm not asking for technical expertise, I have that part covered. Just toss out some ideas you'd like to see as an end user.
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#30
(12-24-2018, 10:18 PM)Guest Wrote: Sounds like you do have some ideas then. I'm not asking for technical expertise, I have that part covered. Just toss out some ideas you'd like to see as an end user.

So, a forum.

But on our user profiles we could upload pics (they have to be ourselves, no copyrighted bullshit, and this would have to be moderated, oops sorry, rocket science again).

I always wanted a virtual pet 'plugin' where I could display a virtual pet on my profile with an embed code or some kinda bullshit like that.

There should be a choice of themes for profile pages. Maybe even custom themes, but only so much as HMTL color codes and maybe a background pic. Mine would be pink and purple and orange.

I want a community games section where games like Tetris can be embedded and it could keep score and people could battle each other.

I want a chatroom.

'Blogs' could be incorporated in our profiles, but more so than being shopped as "blogs" they could just be places where we write updates on what we're doing or whatever. Like status updates only not character limited or any of that stupid shit.

There should also be a live 'comments' or 'chatbox' on our profiles, which could be enabled or disabled by us.
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#31
There should be a number limit of pics we can have uploaded and I think there should be a size limit too.
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#32
We need to make everything small and low quality again and no videos.
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#33
i see where trix is headed with this minimalist , back to basics stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHeVlMScQ6k
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#34
Well I'm just so tired of the default method of communication in all these mindrotted trendies...

They're always FaceTiming with everybody, or Skyping...

It's always pics of this and pics of that...

I'm just absolutely sick of it and it doesn't encourage intellectual growth on ANY level (WHATSOEVER).
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#35
SOME PICS are okay.

But pics should be the rarity.

And it shouldn't be UNLIMITED.

It's better that way too.

If you can only have like 10 pics on the profile at any given time, then you're not storing thousands of pics for people to go back over and embarrass you with later.

I dunno...

It's just so fucking regrettable to post picture of every little thing you fucking do.

Every place you go.

It's so oversaturated, it's so boring, it's so intellectually UNFULFILLING.

I can't stand it.
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#36
If you can only have like 10 pics at a time, it's going to be up to date stuff you're currently interested in.

Or a SMALL selection of easily digestible things that REALLY sum you up, and really summarize your interests.
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#37
(12-24-2018, 10:27 PM)Trix Wrote: But on our user profiles we could upload pics (they have to be ourselves, no copyrighted bullshit, and this would have to be moderated, oops sorry, rocket science again).

I'm not keen on requiring people to post personal pics or any other PI. I guess they can leave it blank if they don't want to use it though.

(12-24-2018, 10:27 PM)Trix Wrote: I always wanted a virtual pet 'plugin' where I could display a virtual pet on my profile with an embed code or some kinda bullshit like that.

I want a community games section where games like Tetris can be embedded and it could keep score and people could battle each other.

Those would be interesting projects, but I'd have to save them for last if I were to do them from scratch because they'd be pretty labor intensive and hold the rest of the project up for quite some time. I want to get a basic package out the door rather quickly. There could be free plugins already out there that we could use. I know there are Java and Flash versions of a lot of old games.

(12-24-2018, 10:27 PM)Trix Wrote: There should be a choice of themes for profile pages. Maybe even custom themes, but only so much as HMTL color codes and maybe a background pic.

I liked this aspect of MySpace, although some users took it way too far, and their profiles ended up being unreadable and unnavigable. A lot of amateur page designers use font colors and background pics that make their pages extremely hard to read. Some restraint would have to be enforced. For example, ready-made color schemes. A guy in Canada whose site I posted on a long time ago wrote a PHP class to generate color schemes, but it has disappeared from the Web. There should be something similar out there though.

(12-24-2018, 10:27 PM)Trix Wrote: 'Blogs' could be incorporated in our profiles, but more so than being shopped as "blogs" they could just be places where we write updates on what we're doing or whatever. Like status updates only not character limited or any of that stupid shit.

Okay, so this would be like a "wall," except it would only contain that user's posts.

Maybe there could be a separate wall somewhere to show all of your followed users' wall posts.

(12-24-2018, 10:27 PM)Trix Wrote: I want a chatroom.

There should also be a live 'comments' or 'chatbox' on our profiles, which could be enabled or disabled by us.

Chatrooms, shout boxes, and comment sections are more or less all the same thing from a technical perspective. I can write one module that can be plopped down anywhere it's needed.

All of this reminds me of a really cool and original site I posted on years ago. The sysop needed donations to keep it running, but all of the members were new age socialist types who didn't grasp the concept that nothing is free, so he had to shut it down. Such a pity, as it was one of the coolest sites I'd ever seen. There was a chatroom always running on the lefthand side that made it feel like you were in a real physical place. Wish I could remember more about it because it would blow today's social media out of the water.
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#38
(12-24-2018, 11:12 PM)Guest Wrote: Maybe there could be a separate wall somewhere to show all of your followed users' wall posts.

I really think that if people want to know what a certain user is up to, they should have to go to their profile and see for themselves. There should be no 'update box' that shows your friends' "status updates". I totally hate that.

And there should be a "Buddy List" kinda system, but I think it should really only show who is online. But you should be able to hide your online status if you want to.

You should be able to add peoples' profiles to your "Favorites" too as a way of keeping track of people even if they don't accept you as a buddy. Favorites can be made private or public.
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#39
This is my attempt at expressing my 'perfect and ideal' community style website after a long day of cooking, cleaning, and talking at volume 11 with lots of family LMFAO.
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#40
(12-24-2018, 11:18 PM)Trix Wrote: And there should be a "Buddy List" kinda system, but I think it should really only show who is online. But you should be able to hide your online status if you want to.

One of the cool things about that guy's site was you always knew who was online because the chat was always visible everywhere you wen, It announced arrivals and departures, and whenever someone posted to the forum. That was several years before MySpace or Facebook, and it put them both to shame.

Damn, I wish that dude was still around. He was a really honorable guy, not a shitlord like Zuckerberg. If anyone deserved to be a billionnaire for doing something unique and creative, it was he.
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