4K video is fucking stupid...
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(11-30-2017, 05:19 PM)Trix Wrote: The HDR side on that thumbnail looks like shit in comparison to the Blue-ray, literally can't see shit.

i know and the dude outright states this in the video. you have to see it properly done in person. it's like seeing 1080p for the first time after being used to 800x600 with 16bit color. it's super awesome in games. makes it more like our eyes, they way they adjust to darkness without oversaturating lit areas.
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#22
My husband just said to me, "fuck you I am buying one this weekend and if I need a new stand I am buying that too." I'm kinda glad he's more on par with Jesus thinking along the lines of New Technology rather than Ted kaczynski and hating technology.
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#23
What was Jesus' attitude towards new technology? Technology had barely advanced for thousands of years in his day.
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#24
(12-01-2017, 11:31 AM)Russian Bot Wrote: What was Jesus' attitude towards new technology? Technology had barely advanced for thousands of years in his day.

It's not attitude, it's an advanced way of thinking. Do you understand the difference between conscious and bicameral mind? There is more logic and less emotions involved with the conscious evolved mind, Jesus attempted to wipe out religion but emotionally driven people won't let it go. He was paving the way.
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(12-01-2017, 02:13 PM)Cream of Caulk Wrote: Jesus attempted to wipe out religion but emotionally driven people won't let it go. He was paving the way.

Damn that is something I never thought of...

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And I'm glad He blessed me that way.
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#26
It's totally true. Religion disempowers people... he was trying to empower people by telling them they would do greater things than him, etc.
God made me funky...
And I'm glad He blessed me that way.
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(12-01-2017, 02:18 PM)Trix Wrote: It's totally true. Religion disempowers people... he was trying to empower people by telling them they would do greater things than him, etc.

Jesus thought differently too, that's the difference between the new advanced mind and the old bicameral mind. Jesus was way more advanced, God is inside making everyone the God man and woman. It's a process becoming a God man and woman, it requires a higher level of conscious thought. Then our brains become more advanced in so many more ways, leading us to more and more technology.
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(12-01-2017, 02:13 PM)Cream of Caulk Wrote: Do you understand the difference between conscious and bicameral mind?

More or less. I studied Jung and Edinger a bit when I was younger, and that has played a role in developing my mindset as I've matured. What Jung called "individuated" is often referred to today as "self-actualized." Historically, only about 1% of humans have attained it, although many more have deluded themselves into thinking they have.

(12-01-2017, 02:13 PM)Cream of Caulk Wrote: Jesus attempted to wipe out religion but emotionally driven people won't let it go. He was paving the way.

That seems a reasonable assertion, but how does technology fit into all of that?
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(12-01-2017, 04:51 PM)Russian Bot Wrote: More or less. I studied Jung and Edinger a bit when I was younger, and that has played a role in developing my mindset as I've matured. What Jung called "individuated" is often referred to today as "self-actualized." Historically, only about 1% of humans have attained it, although many more have deluded themselves into thinking they have.



That seems a reasonable assertion, but how does technology fit into all of that?

Are you able to recognize people that have attained being self actualized? The deluded ones are easy. But since there are so few, it's probably rare to come across anyways.

Logic vs emotionally driven. Holding onto old ways prevent people from advancing in all ways, technology being included.
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(12-01-2017, 05:00 PM)Cream of Caulk Wrote: Are you able to recognize people that have attained being self actualized?

I would guess that, since they're so rare, I've probably never met one. So I don't know if I'd be able to recognize one.

(12-01-2017, 05:00 PM)Cream of Caulk Wrote: Logic vs emotionally driven. Holding onto old ways prevent people from advancing in all ways, technology being included.

Gotcha.
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#31
RB, have you read Kant's philosophy on enlightenment? Do you agree with it?
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#32
(12-01-2017, 05:49 PM)Cream of Caulk Wrote: RB, have you read Kant's philosophy on enlightenment? Do you agree with it?
I haven't. What did I miss?
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#33
(12-01-2017, 06:00 PM)Russian Bot Wrote:
(12-01-2017, 05:49 PM)Cream of Caulk Wrote: RB, have you read Kant's philosophy on enlightenment? Do you agree with it?
I haven't. What did I miss?

I think it may describe the "individuated" person that is self reliant and not dependent on others. But I'm not sure since I don't know exactly what that is. I was just curious what your thoughts were.
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(12-01-2017, 08:06 PM)Cream of Caulk Wrote:
(12-01-2017, 06:00 PM)Russian Bot Wrote: I haven't. What did I miss?

I think it may describe the "individuated" person that is self reliant and not dependent on others. But I'm not sure since I don't know exactly what that is. I was just curious what your thoughts were.
Everyone is dependent on others in some way. "Individuated" means about the same thing as "self-actualized." It describes a fully conscious individual.

Regarding dependence, Dr. Scott Peck talked about "codependency" and "interdependence." The former is a pathological state of dysfunctional families - for example the emotional state of every family member reflects the emotions of the alcoholic father, or family members presume to read each other's minds and expect the other family members to read theirs. The latter is when independent people perform different roles in a cooperative endeavor.
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(12-01-2017, 09:39 PM)Russian Bot Wrote:
(12-01-2017, 08:06 PM)Cream of Caulk Wrote: I think it may describe the "individuated" person that is self reliant and not dependent on others. But I'm not sure since I don't know exactly what that is. I was just curious what your thoughts were.
Everyone is dependent on others in some way. "Individuated" means about the same thing as "self-actualized." It describes a fully conscious individual.

Regarding dependence, Dr. Scott Peck talked about "codependency" and "interdependence." The former is a pathological state of dysfunctional families - for example the emotional state of every family member reflects the emotions of the alcoholic father, or family members presume to read each other's minds and expect the other family members to read theirs. The latter is when independent people perform different roles in a cooperative endeavor.

Not dependent like on Church and using god as an excuse, a different kind of dependence. Basically being responsible for all the actions. This is conscious as well because there is no blame on others, I think it is more like an interdependence.
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#36
(12-02-2017, 08:23 AM)Cream of Caulk Wrote:
(12-01-2017, 09:39 PM)Russian Bot Wrote: Everyone is dependent on others in some way. "Individuated" means about the same thing as "self-actualized." It describes a fully conscious individual.

Regarding dependence, Dr. Scott Peck talked about "codependency" and "interdependence." The former is a pathological state of dysfunctional families - for example the emotional state of every family member reflects the emotions of the alcoholic father, or family members presume to read each other's minds and expect the other family members to read theirs. The latter is when independent people perform different roles in a cooperative endeavor.

Not dependent like on Church and using god as an excuse, a different kind of dependence. Basically being responsible for all the actions. This is conscious as well because there is no blame on others, I think it is more like an interdependence.

Yep. Self-actualized people are independent, but they form interdependent relationships. This is an ideal model for social groups.
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(12-02-2017, 09:20 AM)Russian Bot Wrote:
(12-02-2017, 08:23 AM)Cream of Caulk Wrote: Not dependent like on Church and using god as an excuse, a different kind of dependence. Basically being responsible for all the actions. This is conscious as well because there is no blame on others, I think it is more like an interdependence.

Yep. Self-actualized people are independent, but they form interdependent relationships. This is an ideal model for social groups.

It's hard to find people that are interested in these sorts of relationships because most people tend to use others rather than work interdependently. I think couples/married people are most efficient at this. My husband has tried to form these types of friendships but the only 2 that have worked are the ones where the men are the same type of business owners as him and they help each other and share ideas. I think it only works in business and marriage/family. Not extended family but immediate when teaching our children.

What do you mean by social groups, like how we are interacting now? I don't interact socially with people outside of the internet.
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#38
Well, any social group. Family, neighborhood, workplace, communities, nations, etc.

To be honest, I think the Internet and cell phones are a very poor substitute for real world socialization. They allow people to insulate themselves from others who aren't like themselves. There's a sociopathic aspect to it as well. It's too easy to cancel plans you made with someone if something more interesting comes up and not have to see their disappointment at being blown off.
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#39
I just prefer the company of my husband and kids.
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(12-02-2017, 11:26 AM)Cream of Caulk Wrote: I just prefer the company of my husband and kids.

Nothing wrong with being a domestic goddess, sweety. More power to you.
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