Documentary: Without Bound - Perspectives on Mobile Living
#21
(07-19-2018, 02:35 AM)Trix Wrote: You should try it out Kitty.

Just plan to take a trip sometime, even if it's just a weekend or something.

Spec it all out.

See if it's something you could really be into.

I think it would be interesting to see a world where everybody lives in their own mobile space and just travels around whenever they want to... that'd be a trip.


I feel like that might be the trend of the future,  I really do. 
And it will take corporate America by surprise. Kind of like how nobody goes to movies or even watches TV anymore. Houses will become like movie theaters. 

We were actually going to go for a month this summer and try it out. I have a toddler so it's a little more complicated but not impossible. We might do it in the fall now,  just a short trip and see how it goes.

One of my cousins who is doing it loves it and said she feels like she's winning at life. She is in Montana atm and can go anywhere, live anywhere she wants. She bought a van and converted it. She has a work space too, so her office can literally be anywhere.

What about you? Have you tried it out or do you want to?
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#22
(07-19-2018, 03:02 AM)Kitty Wrote: We were actually going to go for a month this summer and try it out. I have a toddler so it's a little more complicated but not impossible. We might do it in the fall now,  just a short trip and see how it goes.

Definitely go for a short trip, a few weeks... something like that. So you don't get overwhelmed. Of course you could go longer if it wasn't going to mess up any other aspects of your life and whatnot. But with a small child involved, definitely want to stick to reasonable temperature destinations.

I found that it seems to be a pretty long time when you're out on the road... that's one reason I like it. Slows down time.

(07-19-2018, 03:02 AM)Kitty Wrote: One of my cousins who is doing it loves it and said she feels like she's winning at life. She is in Montana atm and can go anywhere, live anywhere she wants. She bought a van and converted it. She has a work space too, so her office can literally be anywhere.

It's a great thing. Cell signals everywhere, great mobile devices... even 10 years ago, it wasn't really AS possible to take your job (online) on the road and depend on public WiFi and cell towers, but now it absolutely works. There's no reason to sit in your house on the internet anymore... you can take it anywhere.

(07-19-2018, 03:02 AM)Kitty Wrote: What about you? Have you tried it out or do you want to?

I've tried it out, but not for a long time. It was just a test and I could definitely do it better this time... I just know so much more and have studied so much more.

The freedom of being on the open road in new places all the time is unbeatable, like I've heard Bob say, that freedom is addictive.

I will say though... that kind of life is not appealing to everybody. It seems to 'call' to certain kinds of people and stirs interest in particularly free spirited kind of people.

What I've noticed with so many of these people I've been watching over the years, people interviewed on Bob's channel and people with their own channels... I've noticed they're a lot like me. We have a lot of the same ideas. There are a certain kind of people who are attracted to this.

They're pioneers in this way of living (in the modern era) in my opinion, they're the trendsetters. Once they've lead by example, eventually "the rest" will catch on and suddenly it'll be the hottest new craze and eventually it'll be commonplace.
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#23
Most of the BLM campsites (dispersed camping) are 14 day limits and then you have to move generally about 25 miles away to another campsite. I think that's fine and I'd get bored after a few days, let alone two weeks in one spot. But then again, I've never done it so I wouldn't really know. Only one way to find out. Ideally I'd be in a new place every day. That's my wet dream. Sounds very exciting.
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#24
I could really see you living this way and loving it. There is a lot to.consider though. I think it would be easier to do the van life solo if that's how you'd be rolling. You can really make the space yours and won't have problems sharing such a small space. Sometimes I wonder about the safety aspect for solo females, but there are plenty of women doing it!

Never thought about the temperature extremes, wondering if you can install heat and air conditioning or use a space heater?

The main issue for me is having enough space but not moving into the big class of RVs because I really like the idea of a stealth vehicle. I watched this documentary on Netflix last night called Given. It's about a hippie couple who hits the road for a year traveling overseas with their kids and living out of vans, and it really made it all seem possible, at least for awhile.

I just know I love nature and am so.much happier when I unplug and am outdoors. I know not worrying about a home would alleviate so much streas in my life, because it does start to consume me and I'll catch myself starting to get that keeping up with the Jones's mentality thinking I need a bunch of crap to be happy when I am much happier with less!
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#25
(07-19-2018, 03:22 AM)Trix Wrote: Most of the BLM campsites (dispersed camping) are 14 day limits and then you have to move generally about 25 miles away to another campsite. I think that's fine and I'd get bored after a few days, let alone two weeks in one spot. But then again, I've never done it so I wouldn't really know. Only one way to find out. Ideally I'd be in a new place every day. That's my wet dream. Sounds very exciting.

That's amazing, I never knew that and am learning a ton from Bob about all the cheap places to camp out.  I'm thinking 14 days would be plenty of time before moving on to the next place. OMG it's my dream too, gives me shivers thinking about it. I just want to do it yesterday but still have so much to learn.
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#26
I agree about stealth, it’s the only way to go. Anything else is just cumbersome. When you’re over the idea of kitchens and bathrooms and living rooms etc., that type of setup doesn’t appeal to you. You gotta get camping chairs and sit outside, go walking and exploring, etc. The idea isn’t to be inside, unless the weather is bad. If it’s raining for days, you can’t pick up your house and leave... but you can drive away!!!

Re: temperatures, Bob’s philosophy (which makes a lot of sense) is essentially to move up or down in elevation depending on the temperature. He said in one of his videos lastnight that when temperatures get too hot or cold, we’re supposed to move rather than try to fight nature and stay there anyway. Amazing. It’s all such common sense.

Re: safety, I’ve never had a single problem anywhere in the nation besides in the east. Anything east of Texas is increasingly unfriendly, and best avoided. People are pretty damn nice out west. You can be armed with a variety of items in and out of the vehicle too. Just go by each state’s personal laws and there’s no problem.
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#27
Traveling solo is the only way for me personally, I don’t want to have to deal with somebody else. I think every person needs to have their own mobile living space. We all have our own bodies... it only stands to reason that we have somewhere to put them which isn’t occupied by anyone else. People don’t learn how to effectively be alone and happy in today’s society and it’s damaging. Everyone needs their own space and plenty of time alone in it, whenever they want. Know thyself, know the world.

And Bob thinks community and connecting with other mobile dwellers is important. I’m sure it is great. I have different ideas about socializing with this kind of lifestyle though. My desires are a little different than some people’s and that’s why I don’t want to be 30 miles down a dirt road for two weeks at a time. I think there’s a campground out there that is gonna suit everybody though. There are some a mile off the road, fairly near large towns. The nearer to a big town you are though, the higher chances of riff-raff will be. Just common sense, there’s a happy medium... and usually nothing serious ever goes wrong.
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#28
(07-19-2018, 11:25 AM)Trix Wrote: I think every person needs to have their own mobile living space. 

if only tesla's work wasn't suppressed, and anti-gravity was public tech. we could all have pods roughly the size of a small pick up truck that can `house` us and go anywhere. could even link them up like the ISS.
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#29
That's exactly what I see too, Genba.
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#30
Unlike houses, the idea wouldn't just be to stay in the vehicle...

The idea would be to travel around and get OUT of the vehicle and make nature our 'living room'.
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#31
Get a diesel van so you can leave it running for AC or heater it uses tiny amount of fuel without moving.
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#32
You don't go where you need heat or AC, that's just the point...

Diesels aren't good for this, Bob's covered that in his videos.

I mean it's fine if you're a TRUCKER. Or you're hauling. Otherwise, no.
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#33
If you're somewhere that you need heat or AC, you're not doing it right.

It's about being mobile, not parking it in one spot and battling the seasons.
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#34
It's called being a "snowbird"...

You travel with the seasons, up and down mountains basically.

It's not about going "north" or "south" for the weather, it's about going up or down in altitude depending on the temperature.
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#35
Yeah I know what you are saying I don't disagree, but look at Rex the other day? Sweating like a pig why the fuck didn't he leave the AC on? Probably to save fuel.
And then there is things like roads being blocked off land slides floods trees over roads accidents etc sometimes you can't move for a bit until it clears which doesn't normally take long. But no reason you should sweat or freeze until it does.
There is actually Electric vans/trucks on the market using Tesla tech but they only have a 200km range before charging is needed and it takes 6 hours.
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#36
Rex is ALWAYS SWEATING in his videos. He used to film from a 100 degree garage in TEXAS.

This is a PATTERN FOR HIM.

Lmfaooo.

Dude I have no idea what to say to you...

You're just overcomplicating things for the sake of pontification or something.
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#37
lol the dude needs a little 12volt fan at least
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#38
(07-19-2018, 11:17 AM)Trix Wrote: I agree about stealth, it’s the only way to go. Anything else is just cumbersome. When you’re over the idea of kitchens and bathrooms and living rooms etc., that type of setup doesn’t appeal to you. You gotta get camping chairs and sit outside, go walking and exploring, etc. The idea isn’t to be inside, unless the weather is bad. If it’s raining for days, you can’t pick up your house and leave... but you can drive away!!!

Re: temperatures, Bob’s philosophy (which makes a lot of sense) is essentially to move up or down in elevation depending on the temperature. He said in one of his videos lastnight that when temperatures get too hot or cold, we’re supposed to move rather than try to fight nature and stay there anyway. Amazing. It’s all such common sense.

Re: safety, I’ve never had a single problem anywhere in the nation besides in the east. Anything east of Texas is increasingly unfriendly, and best avoided. People are pretty damn nice out west. You can be armed with a variety of items in and out of the vehicle too. Just go by each state’s personal laws and there’s no problem.

That is good advice, I have no problem moving up or down depending on the temperatures, the last thing I want to do is stay in the same spot anyway! Long-term camping in the same spot doesn't really appeal to me, I want to travel around and see new places. 

That is my main purpose for doing this, traveling and connecting to nature, not to save money or live off-grid (although it might evolve into that over time if I love it and decide to do this full time.) It actually might work out for me that living mobile actually HELPS my career and what I am planning on doing in the future! 

That is interesting about the east coast, what kind of problems did you encounter? I am on the west coast and have little desire to ever go east because it just doesn't appeal to me very much the few times I have been for some of the reasons you mention. I'm sure there are some beautiful areas in the midwest/east coast, but in general it seems kind of dreary to me. A few places like Maine and Vermont might appeal to me.

Besides the Western states and the Rockies, I also really want to venture to the South because I have never been down there (except visiting Florida a few times). I think it would be fun to explore and it seems like people are generally friendly. Would definitely bring a firearm with me and pepper spray, etc. not just for people but also for bears and mountain lions.

I have been listening to a lot of David Paulides lately (Missing 411 books) and he states that people have not gone missing who have both a firearm and a personal beacon locator. They have with one or the other, but not both. So for me, those are essential in regards to safety.
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#39
To be honest, I'd just stay away from the south too unless you wanna hit it up sometime when you're hanging out in Florida. There's just really nothing remarkable to see, nothing spectacular like some of the geological features out west. Kentucky actually has some cool features though, like Mammoth Cave and those super weird land bridges.

If anywhere in the east/south, I'd recommend the Virginia/Tennessee/North Carolina area where the three states kinda converge. That's a beautiful area particularly in the Virginia portion. I've been all around the south and those are the only places that stick out to me. As far as the people though... meh. It's really hard to explain, but they're just not that nice. People in the western states are nicer. All I can say for sure is stay the fuck away from Memphis, oh my God.

As far as the east coast, I don't have all that much experience with it, but I've driven through there several times on the way to Canada... and yes, Maine is nice. But if you're not going to Canada or something, there's no reason to be there.

You're lucky you already live out west so it's not all that darn far to go. I have to drive across the country, LOL!
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#40
(07-19-2018, 11:49 PM)Kitty Wrote: That is interesting about the east coast, what kind of problems did you encounter?

Just in certain areas of the south, you could come across some pretty damn unsavory people. Memphis like I said (it's kind of an interstate hub if you're traveling south but it'd be worth taking 1000 back roads to avoid, because it's just that bad). Florida is bad too... certain areas, and really the bad element is just spreading like a cancer there.

(07-19-2018, 11:49 PM)Kitty Wrote: I have been listening to a lot of David Paulides lately (Missing 411 books) and he states that people have not gone missing who have both a firearm and a personal beacon locator. They have with one or the other, but not both. So for me, those are essential in regards to safety.

Excellent info, thanks for this.
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