The Toroidal Universe...
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The vector equilibrium, also known as the 'lattice'...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vcNtl6r97WY/Tx...ibrium.jpg

http://www.dimensionsdiy.com/~/media/dimensionslattice/zoom_green_classic.jpg?h=1269&la=en&w=1580

Is within the toroid and is what the particles of the matrix stick to.

It's the 'framework' where the energetic expression of the toroid is projected and perceived.
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I personally think all galaxies are different energetic expressions...

I've said before that I think the particles of different star systems are incompatible with each other, this being the main reason interstellar travel isn't possible.

So it's really just another way of saying the same thing.

Our universe is a specific energetic expression and all the galaxies therein are broken down into various definitions of that expression and they all vary, but of course at the foundation of it all is the central energetic expression/intention of the universe as a whole. The multiverses, same thing.

But I think regardless of how many universes there are, and therefore how many expressions/intentions there are...

They are all comprised of the same patterns. Because of this, there is no questioning "what is out there". We know. It's the same as what is here, because this world we are perceiving is a micro expression of the macro... it's a fractal, a reflection of the whole, and all is contained herein.
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Deep thoughts there, MO!

(02-28-2017, 09:48 PM)MO Wrote: I personally think all galaxies are different energetic expressions...
Yes, that’s true.

(02-28-2017, 09:48 PM)MO Wrote: I've said before that I think the particles of different star systems are incompatible with each other, this being the main reason interstellar travel isn't possible.
Not exactly. It is impossible for us (humans) in our present condition and while we have only this body. So called "higher" bodies (and there is more than one) are not given, they have to be made/born, and as every labor that's fucking painful, so almost no one is actually struggling towards this.


(02-28-2017, 09:48 PM)MO Wrote: Our universe is a specific energetic expression and all the galaxies therein are broken down into various definitions of that expression and they all vary, but of course at the foundation of it all is the central energetic expression/intention of the universe as a whole. The multiverses, same thing.
Yup! BUT, thing is things are the same in all directions on the same level. One can go up or down, big or small only so far, after that nothing makes sense. That’s why there is still no Unified theory. And that's because, going up/down/big/small after some point one looks at another level/world which is governed by different number of "laws". Let's say "down" - more "laws" and "up" less.
In that scheme  we have 48 here, 24 "up", 96 "down".  Highest we can go is 6 (and that's  almost impossible)

[Image: http://i63.tinypic.com/awqh0.jpg]


(02-28-2017, 09:48 PM)MO Wrote: But I think regardless of how many universes there are, and therefore how many expressions/intentions there are...

They are all comprised of the same patterns. Because of this, there is no questioning "what is out there". We know. It's the same as what is here, because this world we are perceiving is a micro expression of the macro... it's a fractal, a reflection of the whole, and all is contained herein.
True, all the "laws" are emanating from The One  and following the same vibrational pattern.
 
It's just our "bad luck" that we have to deal with so many;
we are in creation's periphery, hillbillies of the Universe.
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"Hillbillies of the Universe"...

You need to make a book, album and feature film with this title my friend.
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Only now, after some thinking, I realized something about your insistence that space travel is impossible.  

But, please let me digress first, and state my position on the subject:
there is no such thing as "empty space" nor "darkness" (in the physical sense).
Light is ubiquitous, it's our senses that are limiting us from perceiving it.
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Now, I don’t know are you familiar with Sergei Lukyanenko writings, especially his "Watches" hexalogy.
Great stuff. 
It is sold as SF; but, dig deeper and it is philosophical treatise on Humanity (and Magic).

Anyway, in the 3rd book "Twilight Watch" there is young vampire (extremely powerful)
who wants to end fight between Light and Dark by turning all of humanity into magicians.
His plan is to open portal to space station and use most powerful spell book on the whole planet.

He manages to go near the station, but he can't cast anything, there is no magic up there.

Magic and all of us with/within it are tied to Earth.

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After reading this I felt that there is some deep truth about it.  

I think that is what you are sensing.

I may be wrong, though; just my 2¢ ...
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Exactly dude but see...

To me, that's the same thing.

There's 'nothing' in between the galaxies, AKA "magic can't be cast" there.

Because whatever is there, we can't work with it.

If we can't perceive it (either with our physical senses or in an extrasensory way), we can't work with it, and it may as well not even exist as far as we're concerned. Sure, something's there and it does have an effect... but if we can't work with it, then we can't manipulate it to work for us in attaining a goal... like interstellar travel.

I don't know... it seems like people find it hard to come to terms with not being able to sustainably live in space/on other planets, or travel on an interstellar level. But I don't have a problem with it, because to me it totally makes sense as to WHY it's not 'possible'.

On some other dimensional/perceptive reality, as some other type of being with a more broad awareness or a different composition, interstellar travel may be possible. But that has nothing to do with humans and their state of existence, so people really need to come to terms with this. It's important to understand WHY... you're not just blindly accepting something, it isn't DEFEAT. It's just the rules of the universe as it applies to humans on a physical level, and there's a lot to be gained from understanding the principles behind why it isn't 'possible'.
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(03-02-2017, 07:56 PM)MO Wrote: To me, that's the same thing.
There's 'nothing' in between the galaxies, AKA "magic can't be cast" there.
Because whatever is there, we can't work with it.

If we can't perceive it (either with our physical senses or in an extrasensory way), we can't work with it, and it may as well not even exist as far as we're concerned. Sure, something's there and it does have an effect... but if we can't work with it, then we can't manipulate it to work for us in attaining a goal... like interstellar travel.

There we are on the same page;
What you are saying is true - but only while we are in our present condition.
And sleep or growth are, at the end of the day, only matter of will and personal choice.


(03-02-2017, 07:56 PM)MO Wrote: I don't know... it seems like people find it hard to come to terms with not being able to sustainably live in space/on other planets, or travel on an interstellar level. But I don't have a problem with it, because to me it totally makes sense as to WHY it's not 'possible'.

On some other dimensional/perceptive reality, as some other type of being with a more broad awareness or a different composition, interstellar travel may be possible. But that has nothing to do with humans and their state of existence, so people really need to come to terms with this. It's important to understand WHY... you're not just blindly accepting something, it isn't DEFEAT. It's just the rules of the universe as it applies to humans on a physical level, and there's a lot to be gained from understanding the principles behind why it isn't 'possible'.

Please check image I linked in previous post.

I hope you can see it as a shadow/projection of toroidal reality.
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it could be argued that the sun is a form of aetheric transformer, and that the earth is a child/branch version of the sun. [and we would be further child/branches of the earth] magic would be entwining focused intent with a stream of aether from those taps.

the biggest issue with space travel that i see is the lack of schumann resonance peaks, which i view as harmonic resonance peaks with the godsoul of the planet. stanford underground faraday cage experiments proved we go crazy without access to that. i could see a device reproducing it to some extent... maybe some form of repeater/hopper extending it from the planet to orbit. i wouldn't say it's impossible to create a synthetic aether tap of that scale but that starts to boggle my mind... and makes me think of the demiurge.
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(03-02-2017, 08:12 PM)Simurgh Wrote: Please check image I linked in previous post.

I hope you can see it as a shadow/projection of toroidal reality.

It is very interesting and I can certainly appreciate the way you see things.


(03-02-2017, 08:12 PM)Simurgh Wrote: What you are saying is true - but only while we are in our present condition.
And sleep or growth are, at the end of the day, only matter of will and personal choice.

Well... we are the way we are in our present condition. It isn't going to change... how would it? Are we going to evolve? Then that's going to take a while. Therefore we aren't even the same beings. It's not a choice, it's biological. Or, say we were 'engineered' to be different and evolution was 'forced'... well then that is unnatural interference and any responses to that from the universe will be in line with the magnitude of that interference, all reactions will not be in resonance with nature. Therefore it will not interface with nature properly.


(03-02-2017, 08:54 PM)genba Wrote: it could be argued that the sun is a form of aetheric transformer, and that the earth is a child/branch version of the sun. [and we would be further child/branches of the earth] magic would be entwining focused intent with a stream of aether from those taps.

Oh Genba... it's like music to my ears. I'm touched.

Touched.

(03-02-2017, 08:54 PM)genba Wrote: stanford underground faraday cage experiments proved we go crazy without access to that.

Exactly... and as I see it, this is only one of the ways that humans start to deteriorate once they're off-world. Even if there is some artificial way that it can be re-created... it's artificial. And that is... doomed to fail, it's not natural and there will always be something missing. Futile... absolutely futile.

As soon as we move out of the natural ratio of our earth/sun position... things immediately start to deteriorate.
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(03-02-2017, 08:54 PM)genba Wrote: it could be argued that the sun is a form of aetheric transformer, and that the earth is a child/branch version of the sun. [and we would be further child/branches of the earth] magic would be entwining focused intent with a stream of aether from those taps.

The pieces of central sun get smaller and smaller with each branch.
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