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(12-24-2020, 06:11 PM)Mister Obvious Wrote: [ -> ]If you do a Google search of "manic pixie dream girl movies", Google seems to know every single one of them, listed at the top.

Shit, I haven't seen Google be this useful in a hot minute...

A lot of these movies look like they'd suck though.

Apparently the earliest listed example of a MPDG was Marilyn Monroe in "Some Like It Hot" (1959).

Ah wait, that's not true...

There are other older examples on there.

Who the fuck wants to watch a MPDG from the '30s though??

I have a hard time believing that would even be enjoyable.

They would never let chicks be that fun or weird back then.

And they wouldn't have any funky, exciting attire either.

MPDG movies should be no earlier than the '70s, and even that's pushing it.

In my searches, I've run across a lot of articles that say the MPDG trope is "dead" and "thankfully" it's never coming back...

Pft, uh, fuck that. The MPDG is an archetype and archetypes don't die off or go out of style. That's just stupid. And boring.

You'd have to be one massively joyless fuck to wish death upon the MPDG trope.

Disgusting.

Sick.

Helena Bonham Carter's "Marla" character in "Fight Club" (1999) was an excellent MPDG example, albeit definitely on the "shadow" side of the archetype.

Textbook for sure though.

That "Watching The Detectives" movie was made SOLELY for the MPDG trope. SOLELY. And it's not listed on any of these MPDG master lists I've seen yet.

An MPDG is basically ANY spontaneous, carefree, quirky female character in a show or movie.

But the MPDG isn't ALWAYS "carefree", take for example Clementine from "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" (2004).

(12-24-2020, 04:57 PM)Mister Obvious Wrote: [ -> ]I came across a great "manic pixie dream girl" movie the other day...

I have a soft spot for any film scenes (or entire films, for that matter) that take place in a retail environment, such as Clerks, High Fidelity, etc., largely because there is an opportunity for dialog and observations between otherwise unconnected characters, and it's free to go in directions that are not bound to the plot, which means 'anything goes', so there has to be some form of supplemental restraint to ground the conversations in reality, and often it is here where you find the baser sensibilities of the writer on display, which can be subtle and/or weird; or better yet, these scenes serve as pockets of improvisation, allowing the actors to express from within the confines of their character whatever they will, like little bursts of whimsy amidst the more rigid confines of the balance of the screenplay. Often the dialog will be superior to the greater script that houses it, at least on paper, but since it has no effect on the plot, it is aligned with background production in overarching relevance and value, which is an interesting dichotomy. I also like the fact that the context of a hierarchy within a retail environment is imposed on whatever the hierarchy is within the greater film, which allows for various dynamics, such as an unreliable narrator being the boss or owner of the retail environment.

From this film:

16:38 
Employee to boss: "Hey, when you're done fucking the customers, you wanna play some Trivial Pursuit with us?"

50:29
Employee 1 "What are you waiting for? You want to piss on my foot? Be my guest."
Employee 2 (to boss) "Hey Neil?"
Boss: "Yeah?" (turns away from customer)
Employee 2: "Want to see me piss on his foot?"
Boss: "Sure, yeah. Just... not in the store."

1:14:41
Boss signs for UPS package.
UPS Man: "You signed it "Neil Adventure".
Boss: "I did?" (Leans over, crosses out form, signs it again)
UPS Man: "You crossed out 'adventure' and wrote 'adventure' again."
Boss: (cutting UPS Man off, calling him by name) "What does it matter, Jason?" (exits frame)
UPS Man: "It matters because I'm responsible for any package that doesn't have a valid signature or receipt." (Looks at Employee standing behind counter)
Employee: (suddenly irritated) "Jesus Christ..." (comes around counter to sign for package)
UPS Man: (casually, friendly) "I don't make the rules..."
Employee (with a sense of authority) "Lighten up, Jason."

I really liked that movie. I seem to remember it ending sad though. : (

It's a great movie...

I thought it was gonna end sad too, but it actually ended on a super amazing note...

Check it out again!

It's a blast.

Lucy Liu and Cillian Murphy are total hotties, and I gotta admit, that's the only reason I initially watched it...



So glad I did though.

20:36 was actually my inspiration for the "Huge purses" thread...

https://www.sectual.com/thread-17698.html

I was talking about Eternal Sunshine. Maybe you were too. *confuscious*

Oh...

Yeah, that movie was...

Agh, great but at the same time, it was sorta intense.

It didn't have happy ending or a sad ending...

The ending basically entailed that they were just doomed to do it all again.

So good times yes, but the shite that ultimately leads to their breakup as well.

ESOTSM is admittedly one of my all time fave movies, just not one that I'm that keen on rewatching.

I really liked it cuz it was kind of a mindfuck. Those are my jam. Twist my noodle.

PAAAAATRIIIIIICK.

Awww look at ya, gonna make me YouTube now, ain't ya? lol

lolol