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(03-07-2018, 08:48 PM)Trix Wrote: [ -> ]I'm just personally totally addicted to the Quick Reply form and I can't imagine loading an extra page every time I wanted to make a post.

Activate my account, sea hag.
(03-07-2018, 08:52 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]That's what I'm getting at. If the corporate oligarchic feudalism takes hold -- and I'm not saying it's a foregone conclusion that it will -- those who don't become financially independent and aren't hot young chicks won't be kept around as pets long.

Good thing death isn't that bad.
(03-07-2018, 08:53 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]Activate my account, sea hag.

Why do you call me sea hag?

I like it but I don't even live by the ocean.
(03-07-2018, 08:54 PM)Trix Wrote: [ -> ]Why do you call me sea hag?

Some other guest called you that in a drive-by post one time, and I thought it was funny. You probably thought he was me. lol
(03-07-2018, 08:55 PM)lulwut Wrote: [ -> ]Some other guest called you that in a drive-by post one time, and I thought it was funny. You probably thought he was me. lol

God I love my people.
(03-07-2018, 09:01 PM)Trix Wrote: [ -> ]God I love my people.

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(03-07-2018, 08:52 PM) Wrote: [ -> ]That's what I'm getting at. If the corporate oligarchic feudalism takes hold -- and I'm not saying it's a foregone conclusion that it will -- those who don't become financially independent and aren't hot young chicks won't be kept around as pets long.

yeah 'hot young chicks' thats the part that worries me ,  i have nothing to offer the oligarchs except my plump lips
I'm not sure most people who claim to be conservatives understand that personal freedom requires taking personal responsibility for their situation. Based on the lack of engagement garnered on Gab by my posts regarding the push for an Internet Bill of Rights, it appears the same kind of circle-the-wagons groupthink that the left uses to exclude differences in opinion has infected the right. Here's my latest rant / thread there.

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Me: What other IBOR is Q talking about, if not the one proposed by AT&T?

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Cosmo: Q responded to this in another post. AT&T has nothing to do with the creation of the IBOR- that's our job:)

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Me:  Fine. I've given tons of suggestions on how to fight back in other posts, but it seems most people want the government to solve the problem for them.

I'm gonna go do something else for awhile. :)

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Two days later...

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Cosmo: How would you propose protecting our online privacy & stopping companies from data mining us when we use their service without a law that prohibits it?

#MAGA #Q

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Me:  Browser plugins. They can't track you if your browser refuses to accept tracking content.

As for voluntarily giving them all of your personal information, people should know better. They used to, before Zuckerberg came along.

What has C-3PO said in every Star Wars episode for the last 40 years?

"How many time have I told you not to trust a strange computer?"

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Cosmo: It doesn't stop the data mining- read my post on Michael McKibben and you'll see how deep the rabbit hole goes!

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The post Cosmo refers to above contains links to a melodramatic video and blog by a man who claims to have invented social media, and that his patented technology has been stolen by the deep state and implemented by Facebook, Google, et al. I had already researched the patent and McKibben's claims.

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Me: (1) McKibben's emotional appeal in that video and blog is rehashing what we already know (or suspect) about the deep state and its motives.

A jury found Leader's patent overly broad and unenforceable. I've read the patent and still can't figure out what was so novel that it warranted a patent.


(2) Whether or not Leader "invented social media" is moot. Someone would've invented it anyway. It's a rather obvious evolution of prior art.

If you don't give them your personal info, and they can't build a profile on you by following you around online or via smartphones and other gadgets, then what data mining methods are we talking about, exactly?

(3) I'm not denying the problem exists or that it needs to be addressed. Just trying to discover exactly how it's being done.

* Citizens who don't understand guns are asking politicians who don't understand guns to ban guns.

* Non-techies are asking non-techie politicians to regulate technology.

We need to understand a problem before we can solve it.

(4) Very few of the people complaining about censorship are willing to put their money where their mouths are by:

* abandoning the platforms that censor and spy on them.

* decentralizing the Internet by building their own online communities.

Seems to me everyone got addicted to the freebies over the last 25 years and don't want to give them up.

(5) Some form of government regulation may very well be required to combat the invasiveness and censorship.

However, as a conservative, I'd prefer to exhaust every private means at my disposal before turning to the government.

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*CRICKETS*
Fuckin ey that post is to long to read!
(03-09-2018, 10:06 PM)lulwut Wrote: [ -> ]Seems to me everyone got addicted to the freebies over the last 25 years and don't want to give them up.

That's what "they" WANTED.

Communism never works...

It doesn't work in the real world and it doesn't work on the internet either.
(03-09-2018, 10:15 PM)Fungus Maximus Wrote: [ -> ]Fuckin ey that post is to long to read!

Your attention deficit will be your downfall, my friend. The government-corporate complex can only screw you if you're not watching them.
(03-09-2018, 10:17 PM)Trixmegistus Wrote: [ -> ]That's what "they" WANTED.

Communism never works...

It doesn't work in the real world and it doesn't work on the internet either.

It could work if it was done properly. but I am against it. To be honest its not so different than state monopoly capitalism, which we currently have.
Real Free Market Capitalism back in the 50's this shit worked.
(03-09-2018, 10:17 PM)Trixmegistus Wrote: [ -> ]That's what "they" WANTED.

Communism never works...

It doesn't work in the real world and it doesn't work on the internet either.

Yeah, it's pretty clear that's how they roped everyone in.

Ironically, when you make the effort to do the research and offer them your findings free of charge, they can't even be bothered to try to understand or take advantage of them.

Once they got used to the freebies, the conveniences made them lazy.
(03-09-2018, 10:18 PM)lulwut Wrote: [ -> ]Your attention deficit will be your downfall, my friend. The government-corporate complex can only screw you if you're not watching them.

What makes you assume im not already fell down? Making an ass out of u n me I see?
They're used to expressing themselves via all these free platforms...

And the platforms over time have conditioned how they express themselves and what they share, via manipulation of the reward center in the brain.

The masses are the same as they've always been...

Conditioned, playing by the rules, wanting to be accepted.

Don't kid yourself, they still just want to be accepted, even in 'outsider' circles like Minds.com or Gab.

This desire for acceptance and not rocking the boat keeps them from wanting their own space.

If the day comes when it all becomes too restrictive for even their sheeple minds...

Then they'll explore the idea of having their own sites, and they'll wish they'd saved the helpful info 'that guy' posted a long time ago.
(03-09-2018, 10:23 PM)Fungus Maximus Wrote: [ -> ]It could work if it was done properly....

That's what proponents of communism always say. And yet, in the 130+ years since Marx introduced the concept, no one has ever been able to successfully implement it except through mass murder.

Whether or not it could work is moot, as far as I'm concerned. The fact that all prior attempts have not only failed, but have produced untold misery, makes the prospect of ever attempting it again unthinkable.
It's not attractive to people to have to start their own site and be alone while it builds...

It's not attractive to people to be somewhere there isn't already a crowd...

And the internet ghettos give them the illusion of other people being around, when really, they still get basically no interaction.

People don't want to do the work themselves and start from the ground up, it's all too hard.

You gotta have the hunger and the drive...

You gotta want it.
(03-09-2018, 10:26 PM)Trixmegistus Wrote: [ -> ]They're used to expressing themselves via all these free platforms...

And the platforms over time have conditioned how they express themselves and what they share, via manipulation of the reward center in the brain.

The masses are the same as they've always been...

Conditioned, playing by the rules, wanting to be accepted.

Don't kid yourself, they still just want to be accepted, even in 'outsider' circles like Minds.com or Gab.

This desire for acceptance and not rocking the boat keeps them from wanting their own space.

If the day comes when it all becomes too restrictive for even their sheeple minds...

Then they'll explore the idea of having their own sites, and they'll wish they'd saved the helpful info 'that guy' posted a long time ago.

I don't want to be accepted.
(03-09-2018, 10:24 PM)Fungus Maximus Wrote: [ -> ]What makes you assume im not already fell down? Making an ass out of u n me I see?

Son, from what I've seen, you don't need my help to make an ass of yourself. I'm not trying to be mean, just calling it how I see it. No offense intended.
It's totally not even hard to run your own site, any idiot can do it...

And I am out here being an example and trying to show other people that.
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