So what do you guys think about acting??

[Mister Obvious]

Do you think acting is really an "art"...

Or do you think that's just an excuse, and acting is born of something much more nefarious?

It's a question I can't help but ask, considering the depths of brainwashing and societal conditioning that hollywood was used for before it died.

The most innocuous thing I can compare acting to is pretending, like we did as children, and like some of us still do.

Is acting a real and genuine human tendency that has been formed into an "art" and had industry built around it?

Or is it just a BS excuse?

Is it a made up "art" with its true sole purpose being to brainwash the audience?

The brain doesn't know the difference after all, right?

[Mister Obvious]

It reminds me of one time I was out at a public park in a fair sized city...

There was a "couple" yelling at each other, having what appeared to be a very public fight.

Everybody was staring when the two of them just stopped, went separate ways and started consulting notes they had placed on a bench beside their respective belongings.

One of them laughed and said something and the other one nodded and was like "From the top!"

And they started at it again.

[Mister Obvious]

Is it possible to have a true passion for acting?

Hell yeah it is.

Is acting inspirational, do young people see acting and sometimes become fascinated, wanting to be actors themselves? Yup.

But where did it all start??

Was it natural, or was it an excuse cooked up for a nefarious purpose?

Did someone retain their imaginative wonder into their adult years and "invent" acting?

Is that how it happened??

[Dark Dick]

Acting or performing seems like a way of acquiring someone else's point of view and life experiences.

Of course parasites and people needing to hide their true intentions would be drawn to acquiring highly evolved acting skills.

[Mister Obvious]

Roleplaying is acting, and I have a soft spot for roleplay...

After all, that's what this forum is all about...



Roleplaying is just acting, but an even more imaginative form that you can take into your personal, daily life...

One that isn't bound by a stage or cameras.

Do I have a passion for acting?? Not really.

Do I have a passion for roleplaying?? Somewhat. I can feel a little something there.

I understand the concept of roleplaying more than the concept of acting...

In fact, I would say that if acting was truly born of a human desire, it began as roleplaying.

Roleplaying is the adult form of pretending, and to me, seems much more innocent than the industry of acting.

[somethingelseishere]

I think it's possible to be a little of both.

I'm not well informed on how far back it all goes but ancient Greece had its theaters and plays.
It traveled forward from there to every other country. I'm guessing the further back you go the more
"pure" it was; being for entertainment.

Certainly in more modern times [the last 100 years?] it's slowly become more and more of a mindfuck
and quite possibly also used for extremely subversive purposes. Hollywood and the American intelligence
community have probably always been secret lovers. Hell, Hollywood was probably created JUST FOR
that kind of thing.

It IS an art for which some people have a lot of talent but it'd be too easy and even foolish to say it stopped
there. Just because you take fruit to a picnic to eat yourself doesn't mean the ants won't try to muscle in.

[Mister Obvious]

Acting or performing seems like a way of acquiring someone else's point of view and life experiences.

Hmmm, interesting.

Perhaps this is why I don't understanding acting specifically and am suspicious of it.

I've never really desired to acquire someone else's point of view or life experiences.

That's not to say I CAN'T do those things... I absolutely can. But it's not a true desire I have.

Of course parasites and people needing to hide their true intentions would be drawn to acquiring highly evolved acting skills.

Great point...

So that's why I'm wondering...

Was acting as we see it today (industrialized, incorporated) born of ill intent?

[Mister Obvious]

I think it's possible to be a little of both.

Seems logical and most likely...

The truth is always somewhere "in between" so they say.

I'm not well informed on how far back it all goes but ancient Greece had its theaters and plays.
It traveled forward from there to every other country. I'm guessing the further back you go the more
"pure" it was; being for entertainment.

Also makes a lot of sense.

I could start Googling "how did acting start" and similar lines of questioning re: history, but...

I wanted to hear it from others who I trust before I went that route.

Certainly in more modern times [the last 100 years?] it's slowly become more and more of a mindfuck
and quite possibly also used for extremely subversive purposes. Hollywood and the American intelligence
community have probably always been secret lovers. Hell, Hollywood was probably created JUST FOR
that kind of thing.

Exactly... this was the reason I started this thread. The connection between the agencies who want to mold the minds of the masses, and industrialized acting.

You guys know that I believe all actors are agents... they literally work for these agencies, and they do what they are told. They don't have individual thoughts of their own, they're not allowed. They are just tools.

And I don't really believe there are exceptions...

Not in acting at least. Perhaps in the music industry, there may be a handful of exceptions. But only a handful, and even them I am not sure about.

The "crossroads agreement" seems to suggest that either they are blackmailed in order to enter into the realm of fame, or there was preexisting blackmail on them which they were made aware of during that crossroads encounter. So either way, they are compromised.

It IS an art for which some people have a lot of talent but it'd be too easy and even foolish to say it stopped
there. Just because you take fruit to a picnic to eat yourself doesn't mean the ants won't try to muscle in.

Well said.

[somethingelseishere]

You guys know that I believe all actors are agents... they literally work for these agencies, and they do what they are told. They don't have individual thoughts of their own, they're not allowed. They are just tools.

And I don't really believe there are exceptions...

I think it's probably in levels. I'm not well versed with the in's & out's of the acting profession but
you're probably stonewalled until you get your SAG card. Then, you climb the disgusting ladder
by doing whatever you're told by people like Weinstein and worse!

Then, when you're commanding $20M a movie, it's safe to say you've shaken all the necessary cloven
hooves along the way to secure your place in that world. UNTIL, you step outside the lines or disobey.

I'm sure Randy Quaid has some stories.

[user328]

Acting is an extension of primitive storytelling. People have been staging plays since ancient Greece. Watch a movie featuring an incredibly gifted actor, and it's plain to see that it's an art.

Don't conflate acting with Hollywood. Hollywood is a corporate money-making machine, where parasitic managers get filthy rich from the talent of the real artists.

Here's how to tell if someone is a true artist. If they weren't making money from it, would they still be doing it anyway?

[Luxury-Taco]

I think acting is absolutely an artform, but it falls under performance and not creative. To use a musician analogy - Elvis was a performer, not a creator, as he never wrote any of the material, while Prince was both a creator and a performer. As an actor, you're tasked with breathing life into a character that you didn't create, and you're tasked with integrating that performance within the context of what's best for the film, which necessarily involves working with the director and often producers and writers. Are the best actors the ones who are best at roleplay, where they can "go into" and/or "become" the character, such as with Matthew Mcconaughey's staggeringly amazing performance as Rust Cole in the first season of True Detective? Or are they the adamant personalities like Jack Nicholson, where the character is always going to be 'Jack Nicholson', regardless of context? I think it's tempting to go with McConaughey but really it's apples and oranges. 

A lot of people involved in filmmaking really enjoy the production time, because it's like being in a bubble world, and it is in fact roleplaying in a sense for almost everyone involved. In bigger productions, you're taking over streets and manipulating the world around you and creating large set pieces and you're always on or near the set for months surrounded by creative minds and working bodies all aligned to bring the world of the film to life, so it can start to feel like a world unto itself. 

What's most important actors is the connection with all those other people. The connection with other actors first and foremost, with the filmmakers next, and ultimately the audience. Acting is not a solo effort. Even with movies like Castaway, you've got actors sandwiching the film, the before and after, and even during you've got Wilson, a Whale and other personified entities that the protagonist is interacting with, allowing for a sense of communication and progression that the audience can identify with. I've often heard that actors covet working with certain actors for that sense of connection becoming deeper and more realized through the mutual appreciation of that connection. 

I think the beauty of roleplaying in environments such as online games isn't just that you get to be someone else-- and that it's supported by everyone around you as you support them-- but it's the connection with the other roleplayers. You're building a kind of world together, and it's not dissimilar to the world-building of a film production.

[somethingelseishere]

Here's how to tell if someone is a true artist. If they weren't making money from it, would they still be doing it anyway?

That's how you wheat/chaff someone when it comes to passion vs. profession.

[Mister Obvious]

That settles it. I'm a true artist.

[Guest]

everyone acts. some just get paid.

is there an agenda to brainwash? 

Yes. The concession stand prices, dvd
and merchandise profits from dumb
consumers.

everyone is an actor. 

How do you feel about breathing is how you fell about acting.

It happens. . .

Everyone here is a roleplayer right?

That means you're all acting. How do you feel about yourselves? 

lol

[Guest]

I would say acting began when tribes were fighting each other and after battles it was a way to make fun of your enemy . Also just a way of describing stuff to your village after you went on a long adventure .

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[ELFUNGUSMAXIMUS]

Its an art for certain people for others they just want to suck cock and eat cum like they always did.
Lawyers are the best actors with their disgusting lies.