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I'm not even saying Kelli's sane.
I'm not saying she's a good family member, friend, co-worker, or anything else.
What I'm saying is that the people who have used and screwed Kelli over throughout the course of her life are even worse than she is.
And really, I mean...
People who have been mistreating Kelli have really been shitting on someone who is mentally "special"...
Just because she's smart enough and been able to navigate the "normie world" over the years DOESN'T mean she's not special in the head.
Really, what you have here is a woman who's been pushed to the freakin' edge in her life, and this is what her life has turned out to look like as a result.
So if anyone finds fault in how Kelli lives her life or expresses herself, then they need to take a hard look at their own behavior.
How was the situation with Kelli mishandled? How was she taken advantage of? In what ways have her mental struggles not been acknowledged? How has her mental situation NOT been approached effectively by those in her life?
Kelli has sat in front of a camera, to a considerable audience over the years, and she has cried to us, shared her stories and experiences, and has DEMONSTRATED her COPING MECHANISMS.
She hugs HERSELF.
Who can understand or relate to that?
Who can truly relate to the seriousness of that approach, both as a valid coping mechanism, and one that Kelli HAD TO DEVELOP TO SURVIVE HER LIFE?
That's what everyone's been seeing in these 10+ years with Kelli on our screens.
Maybe her audience is smaller than it used to be since YouTube deleted her original (and extremely valuable) channel.
I don't really know. My guess is that everyone pretty much just found her new page over the course of time. Probably most of her core audience knows about her new channel.
So it's really probably the same amount of people who have always been watching.
She needs to get her products listed better, her website needs a merch store with ALL her products there and linked. You can't just tell people to go to 'spreadshirt', this isn't 2019.
You have to tell people to go to 'store.kelliphoenix.com' and have that subdomain auto redirect to where the merch is available.
She should have it ALL on her site, but whatever. It's not like she has anybody smart enough to help her anyway. She should really just be able to do it herself... friggen learn like the rest of us did.
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I recall Kelli making a lot of cooking videos, so apparently she ALWAYS provided meals to her family. If she didn't always, she at least did a lot of the time since her fucking channel was about it for a hot minute.
Some of the oldest videos were her cooking shit in this g-string thing.
All I know is if she provided home cooked meals to her family on a regular basis, she probably ran a decent house and was a pretty decent servant. I mean mom/wife.
And if she was a decent momwife, then maybe she was an okay friend/co-worker during that time.
Or maybe she was a totally mean psychobitch and just maintains this facade of nicety to the world.
It's not like that isn't the case with most people out there to one degree or another.
So okay fine, what if Kelli sucked in interpersonal relationships with people??
What if she really does have a history of sucking in a lot of ways?
Well most people do.
What most people really don't have is the history of being adopted.
That's just for starts, so go ahead and throw in on top of that any other existentially perplexing and traumatic thing that ever happened to her after that point.
While you're busy doing that, I will just say this...
If Kelli's complete history isn't honored on a psychological level, approached with empathy and true understanding, then do not even bother to discuss her because absolutely nothing will be accomplished.
I also recall Kelli wanted to be a TV personality, and there's a certain amount of vapidity associated with that desire. My guess is that she had these vain traits as early life coping mechanisms because everybody has always just treated her like an object of desire rather than an individual because of her remarkable good looks.
Yup I said what I said.
Kelli's beauty is in the top 3 ways she's survived life's shit-shovels and total injustices.
Maybe she even married for wealth, which would lead to a lot of undesirable karma within the family.
I'm not saying she married for money, I don't actually believe that. I don't know where her elevated station in life really came from...
She's a pretty hard worker, she appears to enjoy the hustle, so maybe it was thanks to her?
No idea. But Kelli's life has been a process of striving, that's all I can say for sure.
Finally with the internet and a global audience, she was able to REALLY be heard.
So okay, she didn't get to be an active TV host. Well TV is fucking dead anyway, the future of entertainment is the internet...
And Kelli succeeded in thriving on that platform.
From strive, to thrive...
Many have been witnessing Kelli's journey and after all I've seen, I do not believe that Kelli sucks.
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(04-01-2022, 03:14 PM)Chatwoman Wrote:
1:12:45 I hope she knows what she's doing with this whole fermentation thingy though cuz it can be dangerous if you don't do it right.
Pretty sure you're supposed to put cheesecloth over the open jars so they can bubble and let off the gas.
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Quote:Once the vegetables have been prepared and placed in the chosen fermentation vessel, weigh the vegetables down under the brine, keeping them in an anaerobic environment during the fermentation period.
https://www.culturesforhealth.com/learn/...vegetables
I ate too many cannabutter treats. SHEEEEEEIT!!!!
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You lucky bastage.
Come on here and just rub it in, why don't you.
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Does the site look colorful yet?
That's always my gauge of whether I've eaten enough yet.
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1:39:42 Kelli Phoenix: World Ambassador.
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You know, it's really annoying how Kelli's old channel got deleted and now the video embeds are black voids where HOURS of Kelli entertainment and information used to be.
So unfair.
She really should get her channel back.
YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, et al. should be declared public utilities...
Then this kind of bullshit would never happen.
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People's channels and pages on these public utilities sites should be considered their phone numbers, addresses of the digital age.
It's not fair that these platforms delete those channels made by individuals when those individuals like Kelli were depending on their channels/audience for financial stability.
The whole public utilities angle has been discussed at length over the years as it pertains to FB/YT etc., but I think in this day and age, too many people have been affected by these unjust page/profile/channel deletions and it shouldn't be ignored anymore.
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Way too many people have been screwed out of their channels and pages, and it's wrong.
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If employers check your Facebook, Twitter, and other social media when they're considering whether to hire you, those social media institutions should be declared public utilities.
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I don't appreciate the way it fucks up the aesthetic of my website when they delete channels...
That's really the part that bothers me the most...
What's the point in having a fair conversation with my POV if you won't even let me post my comments?
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Well sweetheart, I mean, to put it bluntly, I think you're abusive and that you bully Kelli.
I'm gonna come right out and say that. And I don't let my site be about bullying people.
You can't just talk down to, and talk smack upon people with no constructive point at all.
If you talk crap, you gotta have a REASON and a FOCUS of what they can DO to address issues in themselves or their lives.
It can't just be an endless barrage of mean shit against somebody with no resolution.
I see your posts. I'm the admin. I guess my question would be why is it important to you that anyone else sees them?
And if you say personal things, I can't necessarily allow that to be posted on my site. Kelli herself is the public figure (internet celebrity), not her family/friends/co-workers.
Kelli mentions you in her vids sometimes, and I can't nail down whether you're a source of bullying or not, by what she says.
I just should really hope you are nice to her. That you communicate WITH HER (not on public forums, ABOUT her) and that you're kind and understanding to her.
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(04-05-2022, 01:20 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: Well sweetheart, I mean, to put it bluntly, I think you're abusive and that you bully Kelli.
And by "you" I mean you, and everyone that you know who also knows Kelli.
So I'm not singling you out... Lord God knows you learned the shit somewhere.
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I'm just saying...
I see Kelli struggling and she has been struggling FOR YEARS with not feeling understood or appreciated by her family/friends/co-workers/neighbors.
Real shit.
She's been REALLY SAD about this for YEARS.
She's crazy and functions well enough to make it in the world anyway...
But her private life seems to be this sad thing where no one gets her at all.
And what about the rumors that her family tried to commit her to an institution?!
I mean, yeah, Kelli's cray-cray, but she doesn't belong in an institution.
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That's like saying I belong in an institution.
People like Kelli, people like me...
We don't belong in an institution, we should be UNDERSTOOD.
The ignorance and lack of caring, not wanting to 'deal with' people, the anger toward people who stop doing 'what you want them to do'...
It's all been used as excuses to put people in mental institutions and give them crazy meds and keep them subdued.
That's a bullshit approach. It's not the 1800s anymore, it's not the 1900s anymore, it's 2022 and it's time to start understanding people.
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She's been DRIVEN AWAY to the Colorado mountains where it's STILL BLIZZARDING in APRIL.
That's how far she had to go to hermit and try and find herself and a will to live and all that shit.
THAT'S WHERE THE TREATMENT FROM HER LOVED ONES/FRIENDS/ASSOCIATES DROVE HER TO!
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