02-26-2017, 04:45 PM
I'm grateful for you being here, Simurgh, you have a lot of interesting things to say.
This reminds me a bit of that scene in Mr. Nobody where his crazy wife is crippled by mental illness...
Essentially suggesting that a lot of these mental problems (depression, anxiety, etc) come from threats in the distant past that are no longer valid.
This doesn't really relate to schizophrenia specifically, but I felt like it was worth mentioning.
There's an interesting guy on YouTube...
I really appreciate the schizophrenic people who can speak at length in rational detail about their experiences. At 1:02:00 in the video he's discussing how he automatically responds to the different characters who are talking in his mind. Even if he doesn't consciously want to respond to them, he finds that his internal dialogue automatically responds to their statements.
It's fascinating because it's as if there are several 'individual' consciousnesses with their own identities that are being interpreted in the mind of schizophrenics. They have their own personalities. So it's like being locked in a room with other people making their comments, and instead of being able to choose whether or not to engage their conversation, you respond automatically. Then their responses are individual from your personality.
One of my biggest questions is whether or not the mindset of the schizophrenic person has any bearing on the personality of those 'individual' consciousnesses being perceived inside of them. If someone is happy and a positive person, are 'the voices' still negative? Or do they take on a more positive banter?
I believe at this point that these schizophrenic people are experiencing these 'individual' consciousnesses through their own 'filter' of perception. Think about it... that's the whole point of life. To perceive and experience the world through our own unique perspective which no one else holds. We perceive the world through the filter of our own body and mind.
Therefore... if someone is a negative person, it would stand to reason that 'the voices' would be anywhere from mildly negative to intensely negative. Whereas if someone was positive with a good attitude and a minimum negative perspective, then 'the voices' would range anywhere from positive to minimally negative.
What's bothersome is that you rarely hear of schizophrenics reporting happy voices. Could it be that more positive people experience symptoms that aren't negative, so they feel less like there's a problem and therefore they discuss it less? When you feel good and happy and that's your typical state of being... you don't tend to go around telling everyone how good you feel and how happy you are. You just go about your business feeling that way. Whereas when you feel bad, and you're totally unhappy... it's interpreted as a problem and thus, you're more likely to seek out 'help' for it.
I think the relation to the 'malfunctioning' DMT glands in the brain is where the answer lies. Dreams are rarely ever great. Sure, you might have a particularly pleasant dream every now and then, but how many can you really remember? I don't remember many. Most of the dreams I recall are either bizarre, or downright nightmares.
I believe that dreams are tools for experience. For example, I'm strongly against people who seek to 'lucid dream' and 'control' their dreams. If you are using this time for your own (egotistical) conscious control... you are going to avoid lessons that are meant to be learned in dreams. If you avoid these lessons and don't learn them the 'easy' way... I truly believe you will have to experience these things in waking life, and the consequences therefore are much more severe.
The dream world is a real place... I believe it's a dimension that is accessed when we're in sleep state and the DMT is what allows us to 'flip on' the switch which makes us able to perceive and experience in that dimension.
That dream dimension is a simulator... we learn things and have interactions there which we are to feel with the force of our emotions and even experience with our senses. Pain in dreams is real pain... but it doesn't have the consequences that waking pain or trauma have.
The dream dimension is of a specific frequency. It could be that there in that frequency only lies so much positivity and is on the spectrum of negativity for the most part. Therefore, that could be the reason that most of 'the voices' interpreted seem to be negative.
The issue is... in the waking life, the DMT gland is malfunctioning, causing the person to perceive things that are only supposed to be encountered in the sleep state. These perceptions stem from a frequency that is perhaps rarely positive and mostly negative. From 'dream-like' to 'nightmare-like'. Factor in the filter of the human body and mind... and whether that filter is programmed in a mostly negative or mostly positive way. That means a positive person is going to experience anything from somewhat positive to somewhat negative. And likewise... a negative person with a filter programmed with negativity will experience anything from slightly bizarre and negative, to overwhelmingly nightmarish and negative.
Negative person = neutral - entirely negative experiences. Positive person = positive - neutral - negative experiences.
This reminds me a bit of that scene in Mr. Nobody where his crazy wife is crippled by mental illness...
Essentially suggesting that a lot of these mental problems (depression, anxiety, etc) come from threats in the distant past that are no longer valid.
This doesn't really relate to schizophrenia specifically, but I felt like it was worth mentioning.
There's an interesting guy on YouTube...
I really appreciate the schizophrenic people who can speak at length in rational detail about their experiences. At 1:02:00 in the video he's discussing how he automatically responds to the different characters who are talking in his mind. Even if he doesn't consciously want to respond to them, he finds that his internal dialogue automatically responds to their statements.
It's fascinating because it's as if there are several 'individual' consciousnesses with their own identities that are being interpreted in the mind of schizophrenics. They have their own personalities. So it's like being locked in a room with other people making their comments, and instead of being able to choose whether or not to engage their conversation, you respond automatically. Then their responses are individual from your personality.
One of my biggest questions is whether or not the mindset of the schizophrenic person has any bearing on the personality of those 'individual' consciousnesses being perceived inside of them. If someone is happy and a positive person, are 'the voices' still negative? Or do they take on a more positive banter?
I believe at this point that these schizophrenic people are experiencing these 'individual' consciousnesses through their own 'filter' of perception. Think about it... that's the whole point of life. To perceive and experience the world through our own unique perspective which no one else holds. We perceive the world through the filter of our own body and mind.
Therefore... if someone is a negative person, it would stand to reason that 'the voices' would be anywhere from mildly negative to intensely negative. Whereas if someone was positive with a good attitude and a minimum negative perspective, then 'the voices' would range anywhere from positive to minimally negative.
What's bothersome is that you rarely hear of schizophrenics reporting happy voices. Could it be that more positive people experience symptoms that aren't negative, so they feel less like there's a problem and therefore they discuss it less? When you feel good and happy and that's your typical state of being... you don't tend to go around telling everyone how good you feel and how happy you are. You just go about your business feeling that way. Whereas when you feel bad, and you're totally unhappy... it's interpreted as a problem and thus, you're more likely to seek out 'help' for it.
I think the relation to the 'malfunctioning' DMT glands in the brain is where the answer lies. Dreams are rarely ever great. Sure, you might have a particularly pleasant dream every now and then, but how many can you really remember? I don't remember many. Most of the dreams I recall are either bizarre, or downright nightmares.
I believe that dreams are tools for experience. For example, I'm strongly against people who seek to 'lucid dream' and 'control' their dreams. If you are using this time for your own (egotistical) conscious control... you are going to avoid lessons that are meant to be learned in dreams. If you avoid these lessons and don't learn them the 'easy' way... I truly believe you will have to experience these things in waking life, and the consequences therefore are much more severe.
The dream world is a real place... I believe it's a dimension that is accessed when we're in sleep state and the DMT is what allows us to 'flip on' the switch which makes us able to perceive and experience in that dimension.
That dream dimension is a simulator... we learn things and have interactions there which we are to feel with the force of our emotions and even experience with our senses. Pain in dreams is real pain... but it doesn't have the consequences that waking pain or trauma have.
The dream dimension is of a specific frequency. It could be that there in that frequency only lies so much positivity and is on the spectrum of negativity for the most part. Therefore, that could be the reason that most of 'the voices' interpreted seem to be negative.
The issue is... in the waking life, the DMT gland is malfunctioning, causing the person to perceive things that are only supposed to be encountered in the sleep state. These perceptions stem from a frequency that is perhaps rarely positive and mostly negative. From 'dream-like' to 'nightmare-like'. Factor in the filter of the human body and mind... and whether that filter is programmed in a mostly negative or mostly positive way. That means a positive person is going to experience anything from somewhat positive to somewhat negative. And likewise... a negative person with a filter programmed with negativity will experience anything from slightly bizarre and negative, to overwhelmingly nightmarish and negative.
Negative person = neutral - entirely negative experiences. Positive person = positive - neutral - negative experiences.
