06-20-2020, 11:26 PM
(06-20-2020, 11:03 PM)Master Oblivious Wrote: we all have multiple personalties; they can be invoked/evoked with proper technique...
They aren't distinct personalities though. They're fragments of a single personality. It stands to reason that an operator would be able to split them apart with certain techniques, although I don't think I'd characterize such techniques as "proper." Deliberately driving another person mad doesn't seem a proper thing to do.
(06-20-2020, 11:03 PM)Master Oblivious Wrote: ... but the problem thought with this disorder seems the inability to refuse the dissociated states of the self which are subsets of the man maslow described as "self actualized." you can't get to this state by chaotic disorganization; that's apparent.
Jung's term for a self-actualized person was an "individuated" person. This is a person who is wholly conscious of himself, i.e., all of the aspects of the personality are integrated into a whole: the Self. He doesn't project unconscious content onto other people or external phenomena. He recognizes them as being part of himself. Only 1% of humans who have ever lived have achieved this state.
(06-20-2020, 11:03 PM)Master Oblivious Wrote: Jung was half right; I mean he did his best for the time period and time of study he had. That's all you can ask for something that old.
I think Jung was more right than people realize. Very few people understand him. His (perhaps) unfortunate choice of terminology leads many to conclude that he was a mystic. But he wasn't. He was an empiricist. The things he wrote about are things he actually observed while treating patients. The labels are descriptive. They seem mystical because that's how the phenomena appear when manifested. The main reason for his choice of names is that he noticed correlations between the things he observed in his patients and things that appear time and again in mythology, alchemy, and other non-rational systems of thought. The goal of the alchemists was individuation, not literally transforming base matter into gold or anything of the sort.