Alright, fine.
The Deep End: S1 E1 - "The Lost Toys"
https://www.youtube.com/show/SCyk-vLqZNN...g?season=1
I DO NOT get the sense from the "9 thumbs up" that very many people have even seen this.
0:40 I can't say that Teal isn't assisting this emotionally broken individual to confront their traumas and get past them... maybe she really is. Just because she doesn't have a doctorate, is her work any less effective? I'm just saying... if she was doing this type of stuff and her intentions were good, then maybe it'd be a fine thing. THE PROBLEM COMES IN when she's getting these people emotionally re-wounded and re-traumatized by confronting their own demons, and then INSERTING HERSELF as the savior. Essentially, why aren't 10 other people doing Teal's job here? Why aren't there 10+ other people in this group doing this work? If it's all about helping, then why is ONLY TEAL doing it? Mmmhmm.
1:30 like... MENTAL ILLNESS is what it is. Nobody is a miracle worker. I mean, if somebody's gonna CHANGE FOR REAL after going through this weird, disturbing, energetically cancerous situation with Teal (using Teal as the dumpster), then MAYBE engaging in this kinda stuff is acceptable. But WILL they change??? Man, I am not a big believer in humanity, I'm gonna be real with you. Just from what I've experienced with these fucking people on this planet... I would say no. Definitely not. They're not gonna change, they're not gonna "heal", this is just who they fucking are. Sorry. I know it sounds harsh, but come on. Really. Can you honestly say I'm wrong, from what YOU'VE seen in YOUR life?? Prolly not.
3:16 I mean it seems like if you as a film crew wanted to SUCCESSFULLY infiltrate her situation and get the real truth... you WOULD have to lay it on thick. You WOULD have to be convincing. You WOULD have to be deceptive. You really would. And you would have to be GOOD at it. And it seems like these people were.
4:40 Teal's physical beauty is the sole reason she's in this position. That means that as she starts to get older, this power over people will wane. And THAT means that her MOST DANGEROUS ERA (for the people personally involved in her group) will be before she's ~45. Now I am not saying that Teal won't always be a captivating person aesthetically, but because of HER OWN PERCEPTION about the changes to her body through the passage of time, HER OWN EGO will escalate things to a 'head' or a breaking point within her group due to fearing loss of power/control.
6:22 I'm sorry, but this guy is WAAAAAAAAY creepier than Teal could EVERRRRRR be. She needs to GET RID OF HIM.
10:56 she IS teaching truth... but a lot of people are. Especially these days.
11:27 it's the VIEWERS who are fucking crazy, TBH.
12:20 Tony Robbins is FUUUUCKKKINGGGGG obnoxious... cannot stand the sound of his voice. I dunno how these people even get popular, it's mind blowing.
12:42 Blake is the ultimate creepster, and anybody who can't see that is absolutely blind. It's horrifying. The fact she'd even keep him around just shows that she's spiritually NOT evolved. Lol. And the other fact is that "17 years" of being in this position with respect to Teal has made him, largely, who he is now.
13:00 I guess that's henna they're putting on her hair but I dunno cuz it's all on her forehead and that would stain like a mofo.
13:23 he's just in love with her, that's all... but unfortunately the dynamic between them for all these years is about the most toxic thing I've ever fucking seen. It's horrible.
13:43 give him 35% of the money from her empire, send him the fuck off, and never talk to him again. He's probably 40 or so... it's gonna take him so many years to get past this, she better act now.
14:16 he started off with a bum rap in life, like he was dealt a shite hand... but being involved with Teal has made it so much worse. He needs to consider it the end of a toxic marriage and just get the hell out of there.
14:30 he says he's from Utah so he was probably abused as a child... my guess is that he had a really traumatic childhood, and Teal made him feel "seen", as he said. The only question is whether or not he's continued that cycle of abuse... and I wouldn't trust him not to.
14:40 listen to how sick he sounds... his voice is so weak, he sounds congested. It's probably due to malnutrition from that stupid vegan diet for sooo long. He's gotta get out of there or he's gonna die. Get out, eat 1000 cheeseburgers, and move the fuck on with your life bro. Honest to God. Find a way to get past this, and hope you live to 90 so you can live it down.
15:50 I believe Teal's story... I really do. This kind of shit happens whether anyone wants to believe it or not... this type of abuse is systematic in communities across the WORLD. The USA is no different. It is a HUGE coverup. Watch the first season of
"True Detective" (2014). I know it's a tough pill to swallow, but people need to understand these things actually happen. Regardless... that pretty much has nothing to do with the matter at hand and what Teal does now.
16:17 man these other pleebs need to move the fuck out of the way of the view of this redhead's ass though.
16:38 like, there are some hot people in these cults... some HEALTHY LOOKING hot people, lmao. That's the shame I see in all this. Like the scores of people who died at Jonestown. It's so wrong. So many beautiful people, and they got taken down by a motherfucking psycho. Their lives were worth so much more than that. It's so sick and sad.
Value yourselves, people. Dear God. VALUE YOURSELVES.
17:11 that's exactly what I was saying about the opening clip. Are these people REALLY GONNA CHANGE?? If not, why let them take all that insane, chaotic, frankly gross energy out on you?? WHY????? For real. This is why I am not set to simply demonize Teal and say she's just a useless warped cult leader. At this juncture, I'm up in the air about her intentions. OUT OF ALL THE THINGS I've ever seen or heard (and granted I'm not even 20 minutes into this docuseries yet), THE MOST DAMNING THING I've seen about Teal's operation is her allowance and usury of Blake. It's just. Fucking. Gross. And if she really was the real deal through and through, 100% good intentions... he would not be in her life, nor would ANYONE like him be in her life.
19:27 it's good to see someone OTHER THAN TEAL doing this work with somebody. That's a good sign. But the real question is... what is the deferral process?? Are those who get "worked on" by someone other than Teal passed off by her because she's not interested in being their "savior figure" for one reason or another? Because she doesn't see them as being particularly useful for her operation?? The answer to this important question is what it all really hinges on.
20:10 I can see how this type of therapy WOULD be useful. I will say that the less a "practitioner" says, the better.
20:32 Jesus I hope these people get paid a PRETTTTYYYYY fucking penny for dealing with this shit, lmao!!! Teal better make it fucking RAIIIINNNNN. When they start screaming super hard though, you gotta celebrate that release like a cheerleader though... pretty much validate that they just got it out. If you just stay silent, it's not really THAT useful. They feel like they're screaming alone. There are a lot of ways the practitioners could improve. Stay silent most of the time, but vocally celebrate the releases, otherwise it's a missed opportunity. Where my paycheck at??
23:11 uh telling much? That's not a "strange" question at all, it's a totally appropriate and 100% necessary question, and the answer better fucking be yes, or guess what, you're a cult leader with negative, ego based intentions. End of story. I guess this is the conversation (or one of them) that the guy was talking about in the video I embedded in my previous post.
24:35 TBH, it's a HUGE problem when someone doesn't have AT LEAST ONE "mentor" or person they look up to. For real. Like even the most hardcore sociopathic narcissists I've ever known had mentors and whatnot. So this is a massive red flag as it pertains to Teal's operation. If Teal was telling each and every person in that room to feel that way same way, ABOUT THEMSELVES? That would be okay. But she's not doing that. And it's not okay. She's not telling them to feel the same as she does about herself, and to put themselves above the concept of a mentor (even above her). She's allowing them to see her as the ultimate, and she is not giving the same power to them. That's bad.
I think anyone could just stop watching and walk away from the whole thing right then and there, concluding that what Teal is doing is wrong because of her own ego/intentions.
The approaches being taken to deal with peoples' trauma is not wrong. Teal is the wrong.
The motivation behind this documentary, so far as I can tell, was that people out there with the money/resources/time to do this GENUINELY believe there is a bad and serious problem with Teal's operation. And frankly, they're doing a great job so far proving that to be the case.
25:05 she should have said "Otherwise they're not very safe, are they?" The fact that she makes it all about herself, huge red flag.
25:30 and just look at her face when she's talking shit down to this guy. It's this epic bizarre cross between 'bitchass mother' face, and 'psycho girlfriend' face, with a touch of 'totally not remorseful serial killer confession tape' face. Pretty chilling. And sister, it ain't editing making it seem that way. So don't even give me that bullshit.
26:20 wow, anyone who would give their kid daughter that kind of haircut is... a legitimately cruel human being, lmfaooooooooomg~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think we're looking at a considerable part of Teal's childhood trauma, RIGHT FUCKING THERE. THAT HAIRCUT is ABUSIVE. I'm so for real.
I get bad vibes from Teal's childhood in this footage and I think she's a product of nurture. Maybe of nature too. But most certainly of something very wrong on the nurture level. Scary as fuck.
I think Teal placed the blame on all the wrong people re: her childhood.
28:00 if this predator came along that way, it was because he clocked Teal as a victim of previous abuse that either one or both of her parents did not know about. That's my guess. This is how predators work. They can spot victims by their movements, by things they say, etc.
28:20 I mean, folks... in so much of this family footage and even in this childhood photo she shows here at the age of AT LEAST 8 years old, she is topless. She is very much being sexualized in an extremely disturbing way by her family. Under the age of 5, it MIGHT not be so abnormal for a female child to go around the house without a shirt on for a short period of time for whatever reason. But a child the age that Teal is in the footage and photos shown here? There is nothing normal about it.
29:40 they are NOT making light of the abuse that Teal says she experienced, or any other aspect of what she's sharing from that time period. It seems like they REALLY wanna show how a person ends up this way.
29:50 this is footage of Blake from a very long time ago in Teal's life. He's just a kid here basically. She got her hooks in him so early and really just... well, he didn't have a chance. He really didn't. I don't like the guy at all, bad vibes all the way around... but he just didn't have a chance.
30:35 exactly... it's only because of her beauty. There's no other reason whatsoever. Which is also very sad. But this is how dumb and impressionable humans are. The fact is, if they're so easily lead... then can you really blame someone like Teal for leading them?? Not really. I truly don't think so. It's just sad all the way around... but I still don't demonize Teal in this situation.
30:47 he looks at her like she's mommy.
31:40 and those were HER relationships, NOT HIS.
33:45 so AGAIN with Teal making them "feel seen"... red flag. They use the same words to describe what Teal brought to their lives, and this ability to make people "feel seen" is a manipulation tactic Teal probably mastered pretty early on in her life.
33:55 so some of the female cult members seem to start having an attraction toward Blake. Maybe this is another reason why Teal kept him around. But if she was gonna keep him around to reel in chicks, the least she could have done was feed him some cheeseburgers and fatten him up.
34:40 if he feels that way about the fish (and he's right) then why does he keep them as pets? Are they HIS?? Depends on whether they're his or not... but if they ARE his, and he KNOWS that it's bad/sad to keep fish trapped in aquariums, then why does he do it anyway? Psychologically, this is important.
35:05 so this poor lady fell into the feels with Blake, and she's being "recruited" into the "family", making the journey to LIVE THERE. Jonestown much? Not because of Teal, but because of this guy. And he's checking in with her in video call, encouraging her along in this change in her life. This isolation from her home and any family/friends she may have there... 100% culty.
35:40 so many bad vibes.
35:50 in this scene, she's talking to her mother about why she's leaving. And her mom is clearly just worried AF and she's even saying so. Her mom seems like a very lovely woman. Honestly? If you don't feel "seen" by her, sis, that is a pure and total 100% personal problem that joining a cult ain't gonna help you with.
36:50 in this scene, Teal is roasting Blake's nuts about wanting to bring this lady in and have a relationship... cuz Blake's not allowed to have 15 or 20 relationships like Teal has. He's not FREE. And he never has been since that fateful day he met her, so long ago.
37:10 she's being sooo hard on him. She's fucked him up so bad. Like, yeah, his general vibe is just creepster as shit and has been from day one, guaranteed... but he's a fucking human being and he doesn't deserve to be treated that way. It's like he's Jim Jones' wife or something.
37:50 if it was a man Teal wanted to fuck, there wouldn't be any discussion about it or any of these considerations whatsoever. Now it makes sense why he was hiding out in his car video calling her.
40:40 now that is the bullshit talking point Teal haters make to discredit her... the whole "she encouraged suicide" thingy. She ABSOLUTELY DID NOT. She did not, and she has not.
40:55 agh man, they are taking this out of context so hard.
41:10 this lady seems unhinged too if you want my opinion.
41:40 look how they're all dressed to meet this lady. What is this,
50 Shades of Grey??? It's like total overwhelm tactics, total intimidation tactics, it's TRANSPARENT AS FUCK.
41:50 they went to A LOT of trouble and expense to make this (extremely well done) documentary... and I gotta say, this is clearly a passion project done by someone or a group of people who are genuinely absolutely concerned. That's not to say they may not make back what they put into it with people paying to watch it, I'm sure maybe they'll break even. But it's not just the money... it's the time. They spent 3 years on this. This is about way more than making Teal look bad for money and attention.
Somebody actually cares about this situation. Maybe someone's family member got sucked into it and they decided to fund this documentary.
Learning about Jonestown and other cult related tragedies, and the tactics used by cults in general should be REQUIRED EDUCATION across the entire world.