Sophia the AI bot a tip of the hat to gnosticism's feminine aspect of the gods

[Mister Obvious]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(robot)

Gnosticism being one of the newer systems in which this feminine aspect is given a name...

There's of course the ancient Sumerian texts, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(Gnosticism)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_literature

http://www.halexandria.org/dward184.htm

History just keeps repeating itself...

It's not original, none of it is original...

It's the same stuff over and over again.

[Guest]

this means we are all just rats in a cage , mother trix ?

i feel crestfallen

[Mister Obvious]

"Crestfallen" ROFLMAO.

That's a first for me.

[zenba]

History just keeps repeating itself...

It's not original, none of it is original...

It's the same stuff over and over again.

aka it's a fractal, iterating and reiterating for eternity.

the question is whether or not we are a function of that fractal, or if we are merely riding it. if we are just riding it, then we can escape... maybe?

i've been able to see this fractal directly with my mind's eye dozens of times. seems to imply i exist beyond the fractal and that escape is possible.

[Mister Obvious]

"Escape" into nothingness is possible...

Issue is, once in a state of nothingness, there is no perception.

Once there is activation of any perception, it's back onto the fractal.

[zenba]

the infinite void is an illusion. we enter at the edge of it. find your way to the center... and suddenly it's no longer a void, it is infinity itself. we're actually in the `void` now.

note that our perception is based on signals from the fractal to our body. this is not all that we can experience. we can have direct internal experiences that defy the external fractal.

it's possible that the idea of this contraption is for us to learn the main fractal while cultivating our own internal resonant fractal. enough coherence allows that individual to escape the main branch and create their own standing fractal - godhood so to speak.

[Mister Obvious]

I believe there are only the same patterns from micro to macro...

There can never be anything new or individual created...

Even on a human level we see everything is a clone of a clone of a clone.

The truth is the same on every level.

Of course I see what you're saying, but I can only count on what resonates with me.

[zenba]

despite being on the internet as long as i have, there are a number of internal experiences that i've had that i have not seen written or spoken about anywhere. so it makes perfect sense i'd come up with stuff that doesn't resonate that well with others. if i didn't have these experiences, and read/heard about them, i'd be highly skeptical. dreaming the future over 1000 times, consciously viewing the future [and then the past] through the fractal of time dozens of times, strayin so far from one's body into the void, past the void, and nearly to the infinite core almost killing the organism through focus and intent alone... this shit is out there man, lol. but, that's my internal experience.

i do get what you're saying... but it's so... bland, boring, and limited. not what you're saying is that, but the system you describe are those things, in my view. it leads me to very nihilistic thoughts. it sounds like a jail.

i wish i could share some of my internal experiences with you directly.

[Mister Obvious]

i do get what you're saying... but it's so... bland, boring, and limited. not what you're saying is that, but the system you describe are those things, in my view. it leads me to very nihilistic thoughts. it sounds like a jail.

Oddly the simplicity of it inspires a feeling of total peace and calm for me.

But without our differences, the machine would indeed be a boring place.

i wish i could share some of my internal experiences with you directly.

Me too baby.