40:50 roflmfao @ people bitching about "I Love Lucy" RERUNS being interrupted.
That's pretty damn funny. I mean I could understand if they were original airings, but...
C'mon maaaan.
As far as the UFO stuff, I gotta say...
Agh.
Greer got outed for hiring a plane to drop flares on the horizon at sunset to make the people attending one of his $3000 retreats believe they had witnessed UFO activity.
That's just sad.
Richard Doty (not to be confused with Dolan) appears in so many UFO documentaries, and he's been outed as a total shill, hell he ADMITTED to being hired to spread disinfo. He really hurt Linda Moulton Howe with his antics back in the day by feeding her bad info.
Some people say Luis Elizondo is full of shit and is being used in the same way Doty was.
I've had my suspicions George Knapp may be a CIA asset or something, but I do think he's very likable nonetheless and there's no "real" proof of him being an agent.
As for Bob Lazar, I mean, who cares TBH. The guy is so fucking sexy he can lie to me about aliens and UFOs all day and night, just please don't take the glasses off. Touch my body.
I dunno.
I still think it all came from Earth regardless... inner earthlings is still my best guess. High likelihood of interdimensional beings as well. From other planets though? Highly doubt it. Would bet against it any day of the week.
We've been over this many times. Of course there is life on other planets, I am sure the universe is teeming with life.
But I don't think interstellar or even interplanetary travel is possible just because of sheer incompatibility.
So...
The UFO craze is sorta dying down within me at this time. I may be coming out of the rabbit hole, but it's been a fun one.
I like to revisit the various rabbit holes every several years.
I think Tom Delonge has been one of the most compelling people on the scene...
Rarely hear anything about him anymore, seems to be focusing more on music these days.
But he did a lot for the cause, possibly more than anyone else ever has besides Bob Lazar.
The way Joe Rogan treated him was truly horrendous, and granted their interview was almost 8 years ago, maybe Joe would treat him differently these days...
I just can't pass Joe's behavior off as a fault of ignorance regardless.
There seemed to be some kind of ego problem on Joe's part, maybe he misinterpreted Delonge's antics (dick jokes etc.) as some sort of attempted attack on his masculinity. What a shame, if so.
Like, fuck Joe, do you even know who you're talking to? You're talking to a pop punk rocker who gave us gems like this...
Of course he's gonna act immature and silly. Maybe do a little research on your guests.
The guy's a fucking legend in his sphere. The fuck did Joe expect??
Tom shared some hardcore universal truths in that interview that you rarely hear anyone touch on, even these days with all the saturation of spiritual discussions being merged with science and philosophy.
We need a rematch between these two, especially if we're to believe that Joe just knew so much less back then than he does now. Still I think ego is standing in his way. People ask him to have Tom back on every day, nothing yet.
And now isn't the time for it, really, since Tom's focus is elsewhere. The original interview was a missed opportunity for Joe, no doubt about it. He flubbed it harder than I've ever seen him flub anything before.
"Tom was right" shows up in many comment sections... it ain't for no reason. It's because he was right.
I even watched Tom's 2023 movie
"Monsters of California" and sure, the acting might have left something to be desired at certain points but...
The message was pure and true, and it was presented in a very sweet and heartwarming package. With plenty of dick jokes throughout.
It was trying to REALLY say something, to share something REAL, and it did.
One reviewer said it "bashed you over the head" with the message, and I kind of agree.
But if you look at it through the lens of it being educational entertainment, then I think most of those issues can and should be excused.
(06-13-2025, 02:42 PM)Mister Obvious Wrote: [ -> ]But if you look at it through the lens of it being educational entertainment
That was always Tom's goal. That's his approach... soft disclosure through music and film, the arts in general.
He's made whole albums around the topic, he's tried hard to bring awareness to what he believes is really going on, and I respect that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens_Exist
That song was released in 1999.
It's not like Tom just jumped on some kinda trendy bandwagon.
I think he's a good guy with a big heart, and he's not been taken very seriously...
Especially with the punk rock background. But you know what, maybe that protects him.
Even if he is being used by TPTB to push disclosure, and he was chosen precisely because of his background and the fact that people would take him less seriously because of it...
He's coming from a good place and I appreciate the work he's done.
Tom has written a lot of books in his soft disclosure efforts...
https://www.amazon.com/stores/Tom-DeLong...B00IUHA8MU
Most of them are fiction, which is the only reason I haven't read them. I would have preferred non-fiction, but it makes sense that he has to present it under the guise of fiction for protection on various levels. It even pretty much states this on the back sleeve of the first Sekret Machines book.
The only non-fiction ones were probably mostly written by the co-author...
https://www.amazon.com/Sekret-Machines-G...1943272409
Some reviews say that the "Gods, Man, & War" series are a slog and quite boring. They'd be the only books so far that I'd wanna check out though.
It's just too bad that none of it seems to be going anywhere. I hope he's not too disappointed, but it really is to be expected.
First they ridicule you, then they finally see that you were right and they admire you once it's too late.
(06-13-2025, 02:52 PM)Mister Obvious Wrote: [ -> ]I would have preferred non-fiction, but it makes sense that he has to present it under the guise of fiction for protection on various levels.
Of course that does seem like the perfect cop out, but think about it...
How's he gonna release the info in a non-fiction format?
Start naming specific sources and quoting exactly what they told him or showed him?
Quick way to get yourself dealt with.
(06-13-2025, 12:18 PM)Mister Obvious Wrote: [ -> ]The radiation belts are a dead giveaway that the moon landing never happened.
And it's clearly a natural design to make sure any life that evolves on the planet (this and any other, most likely) stays there.
I get it...
The idea that that we can't go any further than 1000 miles away from the Earth into space would be a terrifying thing to admit to the world at this juncture.
The whole thing is just warped.
They'd have to admit that we're "trapped" here, come what may.
There's a crush depth for how deep you can go underwater.
So, 1000 miles must be the crash height.
Other things I always heard mentioned about space travel were the deadly cosmic rays and micro meteorites that seem to be darting across deep space.
When one of the most trustworthy sources is a pop punk rocker with a huge repository of homoerotic jokes, it really says a lot about the state of things, I will admit. Like what the fuck.
*smh*
Well, here we are.
Pft.
I mean, he's just one of the only figures on the scene who hasn't been all out discredited, that's all.
The situation is dire...
I mean it really is.
At this rate it'll be another 30 years before anything big is really disclosed.
It's moving at a snail's pace, which just makes me think a whole ton of it is BS or has been misrepresented.
Tom's super into the TR-3B (Black Manta) which I think is really cool, cuz I've known people who have seen that craft...
https://i.imgur.com/uEKSnwR.jpeg
There were many sightings of it back in the early 2000s for some reason. Some guy on one of these interviews even cited 2002 as a very active year in general.
I think the Black Manta is probably from the 1970s-80s. They're old enough that they probably just get taken for joyrides these days.
People think they're reverse engineered from alien ships, and they probably are. They're humanity's best attempt (that we know about) to replicate the advanced tech. The TR-3B absolutely is manmade though.
I think they keep (at least) one of them at Wright-Patterson.
Apparently they've been seen a lot in Europe too though.
The early 2000s were an interesting time... lots of black helicopter (the kind with the transparent bottom) activity that I can remember from my childhood, right over my house actually. Same place the TR-3B was spotted. Just a hop/skip/jump away from Wright-Patterson with a craft that fast.
Time for me to sound even crazier than usual, but my family was heavily surveilled during the early 2000s, for reasons that some folks who know my history might be able to guess. At least I assume it was for that reason.
Really eerie the shit that was revealed to us during that time, they dropped hints and made sure we knew they were watching. I still don't know how they knew some of these things, short of having people physically around watching us.
This was before the time of webcams, but somehow they knew what I looked like and would troll me about certain features (my haircut etc.) online. This was also before any microphones were built into desktop computers (at least as far as we know).
Regardless, they still wouldn't have known what I looked like unless they had been watching.
Well on the off chance you noticed the couple times I logged on here from Wright-Patterson about a year or so ago...
I promise I wasn't there for a mission status update! Just delivering I think prolly HVAC materials lol
