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(06-19-2023, 02:09 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]

I wonder how many people who paid $250,000 to be on that sub had ever even been to Newfoundland before...

Those North Atlantic waters are very treacherous, cold, and unforgiving.

No way I'd ever go down there.

The sub is 22 ft. long and there are 5 people on it.

Totally insane.

Worst NFLD winter in 40 years eh? They have to get icebreaker ships up there, tons of ice forms on the water. If it's the worst winter in 40 years, I doubt it was even safe yet.

So there's at least one billionaire aboard as well as the CEO of the submersibles company itself...

Spooky considering the fact that the Titanic was purposely taken out in order to kill some of the most powerful men in the world who were on board at the time...

https://www.sectual.com/thread-3334.html
https://www.sectual.com/thread-358-post-...#pid148027

This is the submersible...



That's Stockton Rush, the CEO of OceanGate, who was onboard the Titan submersible when it went missing.

That thing is ridiculously tiny. Couldn't pay me enough.

The ocean is eating the wreckage, he said it's a bacteria.

That's pretty fascinating, but not interesting enough to go look at it.

People who wanna go look at that stuff are just morbid.

(06-19-2023, 02:57 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]The submersible probably imploded... instant death for anyone on board. The worst part about it is the experience of being that close together with 4 people for any length of time... you'd have to be out of your fucking mind.

Steve is signing up for the free 7 day trial of MarineTraffic tracking website, which will be a charge of $1400 if he forgets to cancel it before it bills.

Just set an alarm to go off the day before rebill... that's what I do.

One person in the chat said it's earliest cancel 30 days after free trial... rofl. I think they're just trolling but that's pretty funny.

God the internet is full of assholes.

It's hilarious but it's just wrong.

I do appreciate that he's pronouncing Newfoundland pretty much correctly.

I've heard him say it before and he was way off, so this is progress.

If the submersible did implode, it's not like they'd find much.

Just another example of how diverse the lifeforms on this planet truly are... what can live in the ocean depths is far different than what can live on the surface. Might as well be another planet. Humanity has no business trying to colonize space until it's exhausted exploration of its own planet first.

(06-19-2023, 05:44 PM)Dark Dick Wrote: [ -> ]That might not be a bad way to go, Fannie.  Suppose they were having a mile low club and lost control of the sub?

No, it's not a bad way to go. The only thing that would make it "bad" is if you knew for any amount of time beforehand that anything was going wrong. Like I said earlier, worst part about it is being in that close of proximity with several other people for more than a few minutes. If the vessel imploded, death would be faster than instant.

With that amount of pressure involved, death would be so fast that it essentially warps fuckin' spacetime. It's not even remotely the same as say for instance the way people die "instantly" in a motor vehicle crash.

(06-19-2023, 05:57 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]Lookner stream is discussing the sub's toilet currently.

Yeah... it's a fucking dismal setting, let's be real.

Very fucking bad idea to resign yourself to being trapped in that thing.

And they paid money to be there.

It's wild.

Not likely I'd get in the damn thing to save my life, to be honest with you...

At a certain point, it's just better to die.

Ironic and bizarre observation, sure, but I am just being real.

The best case scenario is that it's afloat somewhere. Still can't imagine they'd have a lot of luck finding it in time even if it was. Even if they were on the surface they probably wouldn't be able to get out, and if they did get out, they'd be in the middle of the coldass North Atlantic with no flotation devices. Hard to say whether they'd even be able to get out of the floating sub before it capsized even if they could get the door open. 6 ft. waves currently apparently... I doubt the thing is even that tall.

When you have a macabre obsession with something that requires you to get into this retarded situation just to go and look at it... you have a problem. I include James Cameron in this assessment, but it should be no surprise that there's something wrong with that guy.

It's called the Titan...

Facepalm. Lol, I mean.

Just wow. But...

Hey, I don't wanna be all judgemental of dead people.

They really should not have offered these "missions" to the public in the first place.

Just a terrible idea all the way around, with equally terrible motivations at the core.

Lookner is hungry and he's going to grab a bite to eat and then get back to the story.

You really gotta admire that sumbitch's dedication.

He's something else.

(06-19-2023, 06:19 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]Hamish Harding is the billionaire on board...

Quote:Action Aviation chairman and world record holder/explorer Captain Hamish Harding has returned from Antarctica with his son Giles, 12, and Prince Ned Nwoko of Nigeria. ... Harding previously accompanied astronaut Buzz Aldrin to the South Pole in Dec. 2016.

https://www.actionaviation.com/youngest-...south-pole

https://www.sectual.com/thread-17936-pos...#pid170793

They'll never find that sub.

It got MH370'd.

Fastened with 17 bolts from the outside as per Lookner stream...

There's probably no way for them to get air even if they were floating.

According to some source he's reading, this guy who was the vessel one time said they took 1 sammich and 1 bottle of water for each person.

How long was the underwater segment even supposed to last?

96 hours of air, one sammich and one bottle of water?

Ghetto as shit IMO.

I might pay that kinda money to go to the moon or something...

I mean, you'd be in a way bigger vessel than THAT, lol.

At least if you're on a doomed mission going to the moon, nobody can say you had a weird macabre obsession that cost your life.

Again, not trying to shit talk these peeps who are likely dead at this point but...

Shrug, I mean it is what it is.

I think there's something suspicious about the whole thing though.

Some people are speculating that the billionaire guy (Hamish) has faked his death with this stunt.

Some are suggesting it's sabotage because Hamish knew something about Antarctica that he wasn't supposed to know, or that he was using his money to make plans to go there again poking around where he wasn't wanted.

I guess being super rich is dangerous when you use the $$$ for shit like this.

(06-19-2023, 07:29 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]https://oceangateexpeditions.com/tour/ti...expedition

Their site is tarding out cuz of too much traffic.

https://web.archive.org/web/202305300319...expedition

Quote:Day 3 - 7 Titanic Dive Site

Once the submersible is launched you will begin to see alienlike lifeforms whizz by the viewport as you sink deeper and deeper into the ocean.

You don't say.

Quote:The descent takes approximately two hours but it feels like the blink of an eye.

So they lost comms at 1:45:00 into the descent. Blink of an eye indeed with the pressure at that depth... ~12k feet.

Quote:Day 8 St. John's - Newfoundland - Canada

Signal Hill is the first thing you'll see as we motor in to St. John's. Take a moment to reflect on all that you have accomplished – you're one of less than 300 people in history who have dove to the world's most famous shipwreck.

There are a lot of great ways to see Newfoundland, and that sure the fuck ain't one of them. Why didn't they just go to the Titanic museum at the Johnson Geo Centre? Or hit up the Cape Race Lighthouse to visit the place where the first SOS signal from the Titanic was received? Or go over to Fairview Lawn Cemetery in Halifax, NS to visit the graves of over 100 of Titanic's passengers? Just not creepy enough for them I guess.

Quote:We do recommend that you restrict your diet before and during the dive to reduce the likelihood that you will need to use the facilities.

Gee, what fun.

Quote:Enjoy hours of exploring the wreck and debris field before making the two-hour ascent to the surface.

So apparently the whole underwater segment was supposed to last ~8 hours.

They're already in a bad way if they're even still alive at this point. Over 24 hours, one sammich and one bottle of water? Sigh... toilet probably doesn't even empty anywhere. I'm guessing they're dead, and that's probably preferable to whatever they'd be dealing with if they were alive in that situation.

It's really pretty grim. If they didn't implode and they really are that far under there, they can't be rescued for a plethora of reasons anyway. Best case scenario, they're floating and found within the next ~60 hours.

They should never do one of these stupid expeditions again.

The site of the Titanic's remains is a graveyard anyway.

What the company is doing by facilitating these "explorations" is akin to digging around in a burial mound whilst wearing neon g-strings and dancing to the Village People.

(06-19-2023, 07:40 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]Regardless, this is just another continuation of the massive loosh harvest that was the Titanic in the first place...

"The Titanic and the Olympic were switched"
https://www.sectual.com/thread-3334.html

This loosh harvest has been going on for 100+ years and it's paid them massive dividends.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1670931677013524487

Wow...

Now that is FUCKED up.

They signed waivers...

Wonder if that really means none of the families can sue over this.

If so, that is very unfortunate because it's clear that vessel should have never been in operation at all.

It was controlled by a rigged gaming console controller.

Let that sink in.

And people paid to be on this thing.

And this company was allowed to carry out these expeditions.

Pure insanity.

(06-20-2023, 02:40 AM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:On 18 June 2023, the submersible Titan operated by OceanGate Expeditions went missing in the North Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Newfoundland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OceanGate,_Inc.

Reading that really puts shit into perspective...

It's just one of countless vessels that have perished in those unforgiving North Atlantic waters.

But do we really gotta keep bringing Newfoundland into this? I get that they disembarked from NFLD but...

https://www.titanicuniverse.com/wp-conte...x620-4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/weylu65.jpg

Is it really super duper fair to continually use NFLD as a place marker for where the Titanic is??

It's actually like really far away from there. It's bad press.

Rant aside...

Notice in that map pic, "Anomaly Ridge"...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J-Anomaly_Ridge

Quote:The ridge consists of anomalously thick oceanic crust that formed as a result of a major volcanic pulse during the Cretaceous.

It's called "Anomaly" for a reason.

I've told you about the magnetic anomaly off of Grand Bank...

(05-10-2023, 03:08 AM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]There are certain places on Earth that have a heartbeat...

Due to some type of magnetic anomaly I would assume.

One of these areas that I personally know about is right off the southeast coast (Grand Banks) of Newfoundland, Canada.

It's nearly impossible to track down any info besides the graphs that show this magnetic anomaly online.

But it's even harder to find anything about the heartbeat/pulse coming from deep below the water in that area.

There used to be a few info sources about it 10 or 15 years ago in a Google search but they're gone.

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b5...land.zoom#

https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20201...-the-earth

Quote:A distinct magnetic anomaly, approximately 400 gammas in amplitude, appears to be associated with the edge of the continental shelf at the Tail of the Bank.

https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/cjes/ar...-BANKS-AND

https://www.sectual.com/thread-18880-pos...#pid168261

It's an asphalt volcano.

There's some speculation that there's a similar anomaly going on with the Bermuda Triangle.

I dunno if that's true, I don't personally believe it.

There's proof of an actual magnetic force off the coast of Newfoundland and I'm pretty sure no such thing has been proven about the Bermuda Triangle. That said, I've never looked into it that much because I'm not very interested in the Bermuda Triangle.

Anyway...

I'm not saying I think it's related or anything.

But the positioning is quite interesting when you compare the maps...

https://i.imgur.com/DfOIFJp.png

https://i.imgur.com/weylu65.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zBNnLXU.jpg

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...7222002422

Superimposed, it's quite uncanny...

https://i.imgur.com/R6zc1YB.png

(06-20-2023, 02:40 AM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]That said, I've never looked into it that much because I'm not very interested in the Bermuda Triangle.

This is all I could find when searching for whether or not any magnetic anomalies have been found in the region of the Bermuda Triangle...

https://www.space.com/bermuda-triangle-in-space.html

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1991S%...S/abstract

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-resear...etic-field

I don't think any of it actually has to do with the Bermuda Triangle, just seems to be using it as a turn of phrase.

It's interesting nonetheless.

(06-20-2023, 05:43 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]

1:41 this Jannicke chick ain't got no business being that damn fine.

The submersible had taken 10 dives... after the 6th, it was probably dangerously compromised. The lack of ping suggests implosion. It's just not there anymore. They know it's imploded, they're just doing their due diligence to search for it before they announce the truth.

What's left is probably down on the ocean floor the size of a crushed soda can... they'll never find it.

Trapped in a net or in the Titanic wreckage isn't likely just because of the lack of ping. There's no ping because there's no vessel.

They would have spotted it if it was floating. It wouldn't have gone all that far.

Quote:What's left is probably down on the ocean floor the size of a crushed soda can... they'll never find it.

Well actually, it would have imploded and then exploded as well... so there's probably just nothing left of it at all.

You'd think an implosion would have at least caused a blip that may have been recorded by some kind of instrument, but the sub was so small, I don't think a blip is even a given.

Pinged every 15 min. so it must have imploded in the space of the 15 min. after the final ping and it wasn't quite down to the wreckage site yet, so I doubt they ever saw the Titanic. The pressure was just too much for a compromised vessel. Likely that some small component failed, probably nothing big or obvious like the porthole area.

(06-20-2023, 06:10 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]What really weirds me out about this situation is all the comments I've read on the various videos on these news channels.

People saying they feel bad for the passengers, and oh the horror and terror they must have felt.

Like no, if it imploded, they wouldn't even know. So you can't use the whole loosh harvest 'terror' tactic on this.

If you search YT for content about the Titanic, the amount of views those videos get is completely insane...

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_q...er+footage

It's a bunch of very creepy clickbait videos like these...

https://images.sectual.com/upload/2023/0...5fdf48.png

What do you wanna bet there are people out there dumb enough to believe there was actually a camera around on the voyage with recoverable film? Just stupid, my friends.

But it's worse than stupid...

It's an obvious sign that humanity is nothing but a bunch of bottom feeding, trauma obsessed fucking freaks who like to pretend they watch the horror porn because they "feel bad" for the victims.

Sorry, no. You're not capable of feeling bad... you're evil, vile, wicked scum.

Need more proof?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsdn7oZK6ao

"Titanic's Last Hours" ASMR style.

Comments full of "Oh the terror, those poor people, they were sooo scared!"

This is just the newest video like this. They make one every year.

Posted 2 months ago, one million views.

This is what humanity loves.

I can't understand the fascination with the Titanic.

I was intrigued by the topic when I was younger, because I was a kid when the 1997 movie came out and they made a huge deal out of it.

They hooked the audience with a BS made up love story.

Even when I was a kid, I recognized that it was just a strategy to invoke an emotional response out of people.

Then when the 20th anniversary of the movie came around, they roped in a whole new generation of Titanic obsessors with the drama.

They just keep on capitalizing on this loosh harvest, it's clear as day.

I stopped being interested in the Titanic over 10 years ago when I finally found out WHY they took it out, to get to John Jacob Astor IV, et al. It demystifies the situation and if you keep being interested in it beyond that, I don't know about you.

Most certainly anyone obsessed enough with it to pay $250k to go down there on a rinkydink jerryrigged sub has got issues that they need to think about long and hard.

Again, not being judgemental of the dead...

There are plenty of people who are still alive who have gone down there to gawk at the ocean's most famous graveyard. They need to check themselves.

(06-20-2023, 06:21 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]It's very unnatural to go to those depths in the ocean... no human is ever supposed to be down there. Just the same as no human is ever supposed to be in space. Yet they insist on doing both... clearly with a lot more interest in going to space so they can colonize and fucking ruin another planet. Admittedly, it's probably easier to go to space than it is to go to the ocean's depths. Doesn't mean they shouldn't develop the tech to master their own backyard before they try and go out to space to take a shit in somebody else's though.



25:00 Steve's right man...

If they did hear banging and they believed the passengers were alive and just trapped underwater in a net or something, they wouldn't tell the public, it's just too disturbing.

I have a hard time believing any banging coming from the vessel would even be audible.

If they could hear banging "in the area" then they could absolutely find the sub.

Maybe they did find it but there's nothing they can do so they're not gonna tell the public that.

I dunno. I find it hard to believe that it didn't implode.

Maybe initially assuming implosion was way too positive an outlook.

(06-20-2023, 09:32 PM)Sagebrushdan Wrote: [ -> ]Man, I would be looking for sunken pirate ships with that sub. Not some rusty old tourist ship.

That's what I was thinking too...

Can you even call it the Titanic anymore??

Not really.

It's just a deep sea bacteria covered blob now, if anything ran into it with much force it would probably just collapse.

(06-20-2023, 09:55 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]

0:50 hmmm... could they have possibly made it to the debris field? What if they really did get caught up in the wreckage and couldn't get loose, AND they lost power too? That'd be seriously fucked up. I guess it's possible. I still don't think that's what happened.

6:26 lol... I like this Aaron guy.

8:07 the synching of spare remotes is a really good point.

9:50 another great point re: the oxygen supply. I doubt they really tested it to that degree. It's possible if they were stuck and knocking, they may have run out of air yesterday when the knocking supposedly ceased.

12:40 well after seeing this, I have no doubt they're definitely dead at this point, whether it imploded or not. Just the plot holes with the air situation alone is enough to close the book on the question of whether they're still alive.

16:03 he's right, the fact that loss of comms was so typical suggests they might have just gone ahead and started exploring around the wreckage because they were so close to it at that point. The mothership probably just figured they'd reestablish contact hours later on the way back up. Maybe something went wrong and they got trapped. That's the only reason they wouldn't utilize the various methods to get back to the surface.

I mean... Stockton was the main dude behind this whole operation and he was on board. Harding had done all kinds of insane shit, I'm sure he figured it would go fine. Maybe they felt emboldened because of their previous experiences with exploration. How common was it for Stockton to be on board?? Did they all feel like this specific trip was a special occasion just because of the people involved?? They were all pretty much billionaires. It's not always mega wealthy people who take that trip, sometimes it's just hardcore obsessors. Maybe they felt like they could push the envelope with exploration in this instance because of who they all were?

I would imagine that the passengers themselves in this specific situation could have a lot of sway on whether or not they abort the mission as soon as something "typical" goes wrong, or they choose instead to push the envelope and go on with the mission anyway.

19:00 "ridiculous and unsafe"... I think that sums up the whole operation very well.

19:13 well there you have it. This was Stockton's attitude about things. Looks like they decided to mess around down there even after having lost comms because they just didn't take the situation seriously enough, and they all paid the ultimate price for it.

After watching that video, listening to a guy who actually knows what the hell he's talking about when it comes to subs...

They may not have even lost power at all. Just comms. Because it was so typical and probably even expected.

It really is seeming more like they may have gotten snagged on something and couldn't get free.

I'd rather believe the implosion angle, but now I have my doubts.

(06-20-2023, 10:05 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]The banging sounds supposedly detected by the sonar are a lot more plausible if they got snagged after they lost comms and couldn't get free from whatever they were trapped in.

With the doubts that Aaron guy raised around the air system... it seems like they may have gotten stuck down there and ran out of oxygen way before the 96 hours we keep hearing about.

It seems totally possible that they detected the banging on the sonar, but never had eyes on the sub because there aren't even any subs that can get down that fucking far.

I just never considered those possibilities because I was sold on the likelihood of implosion.

Needless to say, OceanGate is never gonna be operating again. I hope the families can sue the shit out of them somehow, because wow.

The idea that they actually made it down there and started poking around the Titanic graveyard and then got stuck...

Well that's just eerie, yo.

In that case, running out of oxygen far sooner than projected would have been nothing short of a blessing.

Quote:It seems totally possible that they detected the banging on the sonar, but never had eyes on the sub because there aren't even any subs that can get down that fucking far.

Well, not at their disposal at least.

Quote:Needless to say, OceanGate is never gonna be operating again. I hope the families can sue the shit out of them somehow, because wow.

They probably don't have legal recourse.

Will have to introduce some type of regulation for subs used in these retarded undertakings in the future...

That'll be the only justice ever seen in this situation.

Totally nuts that these people paid to ride in that thing.

What the hell has gotta be wrong in your life to pay $250k to be put in a situation like that??

Doesn't seem like buying happiness to me.

"In 2018, David Lochridge Warned OceanGate of Potential for 'Catastrophic' Problems With Titan, Produced 'Scathing' Documents Critical of Craft's Safety"

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/20/us/oc...sible.html

Quote:In the documents, Lochridge reported learning that the viewport was only certified to work in depths of up to 1300 meters. The Titanic wreckage sits at nearly 4000 meters.

Apparently they've still been hearing some kind of sounds from the sonar... but how often do they listen for sounds in that part of the ocean on purpose? Prolly basically never. I'm just saying.

It really doesn't matter if they can still hear survivors or not... they can't get to them. Probably couldn't rescue them even if they were just stuck in a net "closer" to the surface. Which, odds are, is still way too far for even a military sub to venture to.

The only bright spot would be if the buoys are picking up the banging noise from the surface. If they're on the surface banging on the craft then they could be saved if found in time. If they're underwater, there's no chance of saving them.

Apparently the sonar buoys can pick up the tiniest sounds from a great distance.

(06-20-2023, 10:29 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]Wonder what important story this whole sub debacle is distracting us from... seems like the BalloonGate situation all over again. Media obfuscation.

Yeah, I've heard a lot of interviewed 'experts' talking about listening for the survivors banging on the craft for help, but I just thought it seemed ridiculous.

If you were in a sub that is made of material known for "shattering like a porcelain plate", I'd think the last thing you'd wanna do is bang on it real hard with an object...

Especially if it's underwater and therefore amidst immense pressure.

If it's on the surface though, that's a whole other matter.

I think the worst thing at this point would be if they WERE floating on the surface somewhere and just weren't found in time.

I mean, every possibility besides implosion is an extremely undesirable situation, but them being on the surface and not found in time would be the ultimate kick in the nuts.

Quote:Wonder what important story this whole sub debacle is distracting us from... seems like the BalloonGate situation all over again. Media obfuscation.

They'll be talking about this story with intensity for at least one more week.

If the sub is found and the people are actually rescued, it'll extend this story's place in the news cycle for several more weeks.

The question either way is what are they trying to drown out of the news cycle with this story.

If they ever do find out what happened to these people and the truth is disturbing enough, I guarantee they'll make a movie about it so they can further capitalize on the Titanic carnage looshfest.

Apparently Lookner is sensitive to being yelled at. Let me jot that down for later.

"But guys. You gotta stop reading into everything." - Lookner, 2023



I don't think they'd be taking the ship with the rover down to the actual Titanic wreckage site on the ocean floor if they didn't have reason to believe they were down there.

Maybe they just wanna be able to say they did literally everything they could (even against all odds, capable sub vehicles wise) before they announce that they believe the vessel imploded, or they simply can't find anything.

Apparently the tethered rover they're taking has the ability to tow, which is a huge deal. I would have figured they wouldn't be taking a trip down to the actual wreckage site for quite sometime.

But they're doing it.

I think it's 50/50 they think they're actually stuck down there, or they want to be able to tell the public they did everything possible before they announce they're out of oxygen without a doubt and are definitely dead.

If they are able to find the sub down there, they won't be able to bring it back to the top in time to save any survivors, if they can even get hooked up to the sub in the first place.

That said, if they do find the sub (because they already suspect it's there) and actually do bring it to the surface...

It'll be a historical event, only 2 similar rescues have ever taken place.

Would also be monumentally bad for whoever has to open the vessel and discover whatever awful things probably happened in there. Meh... still betting on implosion and they've probably been dead since Sunday.

(06-21-2023, 06:44 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]Steve is getting sooo snotty with his audience, I think it's pretty funny.

He's the one who chooses to cover this.

He has 9k people watching.

So...

I think it's clear why he does this.

Maybe I misunderstood him and they're not actually sending a rover... I'm not really paying attention TBH, I just have this open in the background.

Ah yeah...

So they're sending a French ROV "Victor 6000" capable of reaching the Titanic wreck depth and it apparently could help free the sub if it's trapped.

It has robotic arms and the ability to hook the sub to a cable attached to a ship... it can't tow. So the whole towing thing was my misunderstanding.

To me, that suggests they have reason to believe the sub is stuck at the bottom.

They will discover whether or not the sub is at the bottom with this thing, no doubt.

If they do find it and their attempts to bring it up with the French ROV are unsuccessful, it's pretty obvious that they will bring in whatever equipment is necessary to recover it to the surface if indeed it is down there.

The whole story got too big for them to have any other option at this point.

Quote:November 8, 2022

P.H. Nargeolet, a veteran Nautile submersible pilot and Titanic diver, originally picked up a blip on echo sounding equipment in 1996, but its origins remained unknown. ... [In 2022] he found a rocky reef, made up of various volcanic formations, thriving with lobsters, deep-sea fish, sponges and several species of coral that could be thousands of years old. ... Since the recent discovery near the Titanic, it is now believed such features might be more common than previously thought. ... OceanGate will continue its longitudinal research work of the Titanic and surrounding areas in 2023.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/07/world/tit...index.html



5:14 the man is right.

They never should have given anyone the rights to go down there and bring up "artefacts" like jewelry, shoes, dishes, parts of the ship...

It's akin to grave robbery and that's the bottom line.

(06-21-2023, 10:49 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]If they got caught up in the debris field and were alive in the sub for days... they died a far worse death than anyone on the Titanic did, that's just the truth of it.

I can't think of a more clear and unfortunate sign from the universe saying "Don't ever come back to this place."

It can't get much more blatant.

How long do you wanna bet luciferian hollywood will wait before they make a movie about "the fate of the five" utilizing these nifty new 3D scans?

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-new...-180982219

Very convenient.

I've been on several ships, ferries, and fishing boats in the North Atlantic... it's an extremely inhospitable place on a good day. To be as far out in it as these rescue vessels are... not enviable. It's a very cold, windy, wet and totally isolating environment... just feels unsettling most of the time.

The Leif Ericson is like the Mercury Retrograde of North Atlantic ferries...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Leif_Ericson

It ran aground in 1995 when it was still called the Stena Challenger, and it collided with a "concrete structure" while in Port Aux Basques in 2006, just a couple of years after I was on it the last time.

Most of those ships are creepy in general, and some of them are haunted.

Leif Ericson wasn't particularly haunted, but definitely a klutz. Although according to the Wiki, it's gone without incident for damn near 20 years at this point, so props I guess.

I love it when Steve takes bathroom breaks during his streams. It turns me on to think about him man handling his doom boner.

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(06-22-2023, 01:58 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:Meh... still betting on implosion and they've probably been dead since Sunday.

An ROV located the rear cover and the landing frame from the sub, so those are components that wouldn't have been subject to shattering upon implosion like the passenger capsule would have been.

It was found 1640 ft. (quarter mile) away from the Titanic, so they never got to the wreckage site, that's just where the remaining pieces of the sub drifted down after it shattered. That distance aligns perfectly with the lost comms at 1:45:00 into descent, as it takes ~2 hours to get there.

They might have known some weird shit was going wrong with the sub, but they died instantly... the most preferable way possible in this whole situation.

So I was right to have a super positive outlook and assume implosion from the jump. This is actually good news. That means we should all continue just assuming the best about everything!

(06-22-2023, 02:18 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]

1:40...



Pretty sure all those chicks are just photographers or maids or something, but still. Tons of social justice BS wrapped up in this OceanGate company... really just did not go well at all. Nobody will learn from this though.

5:25 Stockton's step son...

I just don't even know what to say. Just looking at him and listening to him, you can tell. You can just tell. The guy wouldn't be anywhere if it wasn't for family connections. These soft rich boys born into all this wealth just end up total degenerates, and TBH, they might be the cause of why society is in this condition today. I don't think it's the billionaires we should be mad at for the state of the world... I think it's their soft, spoiled, pansy sons who never had to struggle to survive and only developed warped sexual proclivities with all that free time.

However I must say I have always thought the whole connection between this story and Tom "Disclosure" DeLonge's Blink-182 band was a bit "coincidental"...

(06-22-2023, 04:17 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]

P. H. was far more likeable than Stockton... I'm relieved to hear he didn't suffer. Seeing him in interviews made me sad to think he might be trapped in a bad situation. He seemed like a decent feller.

Must be hella weird to hear all this for the people who had gone down in that sub.

Good ol' carbon fiber weave that shatters "like porcelain" eh?

Stockton's hopes of innovation didn't go over too well, and this situation will impede any attempts at similar innovative strategy for at least a decade.

Still can't wrap my mind around what exactly makes gawking at a rusty hunk of metal with a tragic history so fucking "wonderful", but okay.



7:52 Cameron is right...

They were attempting to shed weight and come back up to the surface in order to get to a depth with lesser PSI in time.

He's the first person I've heard who was willing to say this, so props to him.

They may have known their situation was potentially dire and they may have panicked...

But those feelings they may have momentarily encountered followed by death within milliseconds is still a far better scenario than being trapped for days or suffocating.

(06-22-2023, 05:17 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]From a news cycle obfuscation standpoint, this sub saga dragged on for days is still not enough to deflect from the crazy shit coming out about provable nefarious Biden family activity. They'll have to come up with another diversion if they wanna drown that drama out effectively.

Lookner spent ~42 total hours covering the sub incident.

He is excellent at his job...

Far better than any of the talking heads on dinosaur MSM.

God bless the internet.

He deserves every dime of whatever he earns, without a doubt. He may be biased in a lot of ways, but he only ever lets it break through during highly meme-worthy, mouth-frothing moments that go down in niche internet history. That's a win.

(06-23-2023, 12:06 AM)Chatwoman Wrote: [ -> ]

18:07.

Kinda sad to see this Stockton guy talking about it... he was obviously passionate about the whole thing. We keep hearing reference to "billionaires" and whatnot in this situation, but honestly, this guy was clearly on a budget. He wasn't fucking with no Elon Musk kinda money, that's for sure. Yeesh. If you can't do it RIGHT, don't do it at all... but still just a really unfortunate ending to this guy's personal dreams and aspirations.

19:55 he was clearly just a really obsessed nerd when it came to this whole ocean exploration thingy. Which leads me to question... where WAS the funding for what he was doing?? Cuz it really does seem like he wanted to be the SpaceX of the ocean though. It really seems like he had big goals for "innovation" just like Elon does, so why didn't he a get a bunch of money behind it like Elon has?

Could it be because the only "alien" life that really exists within our local space neighborhood is HERE on the planet, and perhaps within the ocean's depths? Countless instances of people seeing UFOs rising out of all kinds of bodies of water, including oceans all over the world. So... is deep ocean exploration more of a threat to the official narrative of this planet's history (and humanity's origins) than traveling to space??



20:15 you could tell he had way too much confidence in the whole thing though.

22:14 oh man... so he's describing the porthole area which was only rated to a pressure of 1300. He actually says it'll start to crackle before it fails so you "get a huge warning"... oh my God man, I bet that's literally what happened. I bet they found that piece without the window on it. That's pretty bad because he'd know exactly what was going wrong and that it was deadly right then and there. I doubt they had a whole ton of time to panic, but still... that's fucked up. It'd be one thing if it had only been his own life on the line, but with the paying passengers... just makes the whole thing look bad.

22:56 you can tell he really loved this. Unbelievable man, just... it's a lot.

24:04 and here Stockton is talking about HOW HE'D LIKE TO BE REMEMBERED.

24:18 yeah well... maybe it wasn't the carbon fiber after all. I have a feeling it was the porthole. It's the elephant in the room with the literal proof that it wasn't rated for those depths. Result is still the same whether it was the hull or the porthole... doesn't make much of a difference. Still pretty eerie to see this though.

24:34 wow... he literally said what I said. This is much more intense than I figured it could be.

That's fucked up, man.

He just said the truth of the matter, right then and there.

I never expected to hear that shit out of him.

(06-23-2023, 12:18 AM)Sagebrushdan Wrote: [ -> ]I admire your persistence covering this story. Better than lookner maybe, idk I haven't watched his streams on this one.

More alternative than Lookner, but...

I dunno, this shit just took on a whole new light IMO.



I think it needs its own thread for archival sake... we will discuss it in the future and bring it up again anyways, so might as well.