Sometimes I catch myself having what I would call "pre-schizophrenic" thoughts...

[Mister Obvious]

Of the paranoid variety.

But I catch myself and point it out.

And I think that's the difference between sane, and insane.

When you stop catching yourself...

That's when you've got a problem.

[Mister Obvious]

And that of course applies to psychosis in general.

[user94]

Just because your'e paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you.

[Mister Obvious]

Well said sir.

[Kitty]

What kind of paranoid thoughts are you having?

Sometimes I feel like I'm being followed and the government is listening but thanks to Snowden I now know that's actually true!

[Mister Obvious]

See that's the issue isn't it?

Like I said somewhere in the schizophrenia thread...

http://www.sectual.com/thread-317.html

We REALLY ARE being spied on (smart devices, satellites, etc).

We REALLY ARE being poisoned (the food, and everything else, GMOs, etc).

So that is actually true these days, whereas like 100 years ago, it wasn't so true and would be a generally psychotic fear.

By knowing that we really are being spied on and poisoned, and taking steps to mitigate the damage from that...

We sort of 'adjust' the gauge of what would be a rational paranoid thought, and what would be an irrational paranoid thought.

[user94]

See that's the issue isn't it?

Like I said somewhere in the schizophrenia thread...

http://www.sectual.com/thread-317.html

We REALLY ARE being spied on (smart devices, satellites, etc).

We REALLY ARE being poisoned (the food, and everything else, GMOs, etc).

So that is actually true these days, whereas like 100 years ago, it wasn't so true and would be a generally psychotic fear.

By knowing that we really are being spied on and poisoned, and taking steps to mitigate the damage from that...

We sort of 'adjust' the gauge of what would be a rational paranoid thought, and what would be an irrational paranoid thought.

Exactly in regards to these things its not paranoia its fight or flight some of us notice what is being done to us, most do not.
Its like back in the cave man days where 10 people would get killed by a saber tooth tiger before the rest ran away, and a few may have noticed its droppings or sensed it stalking around so slept up a tree that night.

[Guest]

Jung said that people who are in the process of becoming indivuated are often mistaken for schizophrenics, even by trained psychologists.

[Mister Obvious]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individuation

In Jungian psychology, individuation is the process in which the individual self develops out of an undifferentiated unconscious – seen as a developmental psychic process during which innate elements of personality, the components of the immature psyche, and the experiences of the person's life become, if the process is more or less successful, integrated over time into a well-functioning whole.

[Guest]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individuation

You get the idea. I think simple spontaneity can be mistaken for madness.

[Mister Obvious]

That's why it's better not to believe the media telling you that every little thing needs to be looked at by a 'professional'...

Life is an individual experience, and attempting to put labels on huge swathes of people is an inevitable disaster.

[Mister Obvious]

Had another one of these experiences hours ago...

It was between a sleep/wake state which further supports the hypothesis that schizophrenia is a malfunction of the sleeping/dreaming part of the brain re: glands and secretion of chemicals etc.

[Guest]

Observe your thoughts remember YOU are not your brain, its just an organ like a kidney, YOU are something much greater.
You are the massive energy that holds your whole body together. A Soul.
When you seperate the 2, then you become something greater.
Stop letting this organ control the real you, the awesome thing you really are.
Love the dark knight of the soul.

[Mister Obvious]

Yeah it was weird, I was observing two voices having an absurdly in-depth, heated conversation about something that wasn’t even real/actually there and was just bizarre/dumb in the first place.

It would be leagues beyond distracting for that kinda thing to be going on all the time.

[Guest]

Yeah it was weird, I was observing two voices having an absurdly in-depth, heated conversation about something that wasn’t even real/actually there and was just bizarre/dumb in the first place.

It would be leagues beyond distracting for that kinda thing to be going on all the time.

Your mind and the real you, your mind is just a hard drive that stores information, thoughts will fire.
The real you holds your whole body together, an awesome energy, until it wants not to anymore. Observe your thoughts, don't resist them, just watch them.
Then you seperate YOU from your ORGAN.

[Mister Obvious]