Audio Pareidolia: We need to talk about this...
#21
I hope you get a real good night's sleep MO!
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#22
The shit's waking me up out of my fucking sleep now.

I woke up from something I interpreted as a bang and a knock.

Then I woke up from something I interpreted as a voice.

I was pretty annoyed at that juncture, so I put my head to my pillow hard, and I basically started hearing distant talk radio in it.

So I got up and turned my fan off (I've been using a great fan to sleep since I was a teenager and I've been using this specific fan for several years), get back in bed and listen...

There was nothing but total silence.

So I turn the fan back on and get in bed and try to fall asleep again.

Then I woke up again and it was finally sunrise.

I was pacing around my room and then heard one of the strangest "no legitimate cause" (i.e., can't blame it on a noise in the environment) voice yet, and it sounded like some kinda barbaric cry.

I decided fuck it, I'm getting up. No point in even trying.
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#23
As you can imagine, this is pretty fucking upsetting to me.
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#24
I mean when you're getting woken up FROM SLEEP by a "voice" (imagined/misinterpreted sound) that's pretty damn bad.

That's worse than just sitting around and randomly hearing some shit.

There's no controlling something that subconscious.

I get to reason about it even less when it's waking me up out of my sleep.

There's no choice in the matter.

I'm pretty disturbed and pissed off.
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#25
Rather than voices, it's mostly just vocal sounds. Grunts, cries, etc.

But then there's the "talk radio" aspect of it that just sounds like somebody talking at length... indiscernible.

So I guess technically, calling it "voices" is accurate.
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#26
I find that I'm more sensitive than usual to all sounds.

For example, yesterday I was unbearably annoyed by this bird who kept making the same sound over and over in rapid succession.

Annoying noises that would otherwise just be a minor nuisance are literally causing my brain to vibrate.
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#27
What could cause this?

How do you go from being fairly normal to having this issue?

I just think there has to be a reason, but what is it?
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#28
My internal dialogue has gotten weird too.

It was always pretty dissociated, I've always been referred to by my inner voice as "You" instead of "I" for example. I dunno if it's that way for everybody.

But lastnight there was a lot of chatter.

I dunno, it's hard to explain.

At a certain point, it was a few "inner voices", but one main femaleish voice that was talking about me to another voice that didn't really say much.

But the main one was basically making fun of me... it wasn't super hurtful or anything, and it didn't even really make sense. But the tone of it was poking fun at me and demonstrating what I was like by putting something on a chair and pointing at it and laughing to the other voice about it.

It was abstract and stupid because I was falling asleep at the time, so it had sort of a nonsense dream quality to it, but I wasn't asleep yet.
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#29
When I was brushing my teeth before bed, my inner voice was telling me to do stupid shit in the middle of the task...

It was telling me I should go in the closet and get something I would need later while I was brushing my teeth.

And I was like fuck you, I'll do it when I'm done.

Just stuff like that which isn't typical for me and I don't need useless shit like that going on in my head.
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#30
I was arranging stuff on my nightstand before getting in bed, and I caught my inner voice talking about it while calling me "You" and "She" in a more detached manner than usual... which makes me question whether it really was my legitimate inner voice or not.
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#31
It's just not cool and I'm fairly rattled over it.
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#32
(10-09-2020, 07:36 AM)Mister Obvious Wrote: What could cause this?
How do you go from being fairly normal to having this issue?
I just think there has to be a reason, but what is it?

If this were happening to me, My go-to would be that I've got something
buried down DEEP that needs releasing. Some kind of pain, trauma or other.

That "barbaric cry" holds a lot. Could even be previous incarnations or their
experiences that manifest and attach to events from your present-day life
for whatever reason. In my experience, it usually stems from some type of healing 
that needs to take place that has gone ignored. 

We humans love to bury things. Things we don't think we need anymore, things we
don't want to deal with and even things we want to keep safe. Treasures, secrets, bodies, 
pain. But those things of an unresolved nature always find their way to the surface again. 
And they're usually covered in more dirt than they were when we originally buried them.

There's a reason for things like this. And I'm not of the mind to relegate them to the
"crazy" bin. Something is screaming for your attention! Only You know what that could
be. You might need a Courage shovel but I think you have every bit of the wherewithal 
to root out this issue and gain the victory! Healing doesn't always mean curing.

None of us will leave this battlefield without scars. It makes for great conversation
in the next Life.  ; )
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#33
(10-09-2020, 07:45 AM)Mister Obvious Wrote: I was arranging stuff on my nightstand before getting in bed, and I caught my inner voice talking about it while calling me "You" and "She" in a more detached manner than usual... which makes me question whether it really was my legitimate inner voice or not.

And there's always the angle that you may be picking up on energies/entities 
bleeding through into our world. The simple fact that you can sense and call
attention to these things and not just fall victim to their whims says out loud
that you are not crazy. Although I totally understand how all this might drive
you up the wall.
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#34
(10-09-2020, 07:41 AM)Mister Obvious Wrote: 1) It was always pretty dissociated, I've always been referred to by my inner voice as "You" instead of "I" for example. I dunno if it's that way for everybody.

2) At a certain point, it was a few "inner voices", but one main femaleish voice that was talking about me to another voice that didn't really say much. But the main one was basically making fun of me... it wasn't super hurtful or anything, and it didn't even really make sense. But the tone of it was poking fun at me and demonstrating what I was like by putting something on a chair and pointing at it and laughing to the other voice about it.

1) I'm really thinking that this is probably down to the level of quirkiness any given person
contains within their character. Dependent upon a few different variables. Biggest of which
being how adversely it affects you and if you feel threatened by it.

2) I think it's possible that this could be fragments of a negative self-image, past or present, 
surfacing and just doing what it does. Schoolyard bullies. Sometimes, we got 'em inside us too.
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#35
Oh, I forgot...

DISCLAIMER: I am NOT a doctor or medical professional.
I'm merely an everyday Nobody who has experienced the hard, dull end
of mental illness and it's wonderful, life-ruining chokehold. Medication never
helped! It only lowered me into a stupor of rapid weight gain and sleeping
20 hours a day.

However, the talk-therapy was GOLD! Being able to unburden myself once a week to
a non-judgmental ear, man, THAT'S where the money was! Just being able to get it all
out and not have it eat me up inside anymore. However difficult it was to open up, it was
always THE biggest relief and it was THE highlight of my week.

DISCLAIMER 2.0: I AM NOT pissing all over medication or the idea of it. I'm only saying that
it didn't help ME. I am of course of the mind that it more than likely won't help many of the
people who end up on it either. I've seen too much to not know. I will only ever be Honest
in my dialogue about my life and experiences because they came at TOO high a price for
me to be otherwise!
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#36
I read all your thoughts then proceeded to have 2 choice chip cookies and half a coffee then fell asleep and had the most wonderful dream that began with me in the nuthouse again . good thing I had great female companionship on the ward
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#37
(10-09-2020, 07:41 AM)Mister Obvious Wrote: It was always pretty dissociated, I've always been referred to by my inner voice as "You" instead of "I" for example. I dunno if it's that way for everybody.

i get that a lot, it's either 'you' or 'we.'

i've lately found myself in a thing in which i'm singing repetitive lyrics about one of our cats to a few different styles of songs i currently dig. over and over. sometimes like an hour straight. in moments of self reflection, i'm somewhat concerned about this. it reminds me of being really depressed and having the same hurtful broken record playing... but this time it's not a bad, hurtful thing. speaking of him, he just walked up to me with trills of affection.

have you had your ears checked out recently? i know i sure haven't, and i know for sure i've suffered some damage from loud noises. as i've accumulated that damage, i have had more instances of thinking i'm hearing something when i'm not. my hearing gets super sensitive when i'm gettin stoned, which can make this worse.
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#38
I really appreciate the spiritual and interdimensional aspects of this issue being discussed in a very helpful and concise manner.

I think there's a lot of wisdom here and I'm again hearkening back to the Native American perspective on the true nature of existence.

This seems to be what everyone is telling me... and I'm profoundly grateful for the wisdom and understanding that I've been met with in talking about this situation with others.

I didn't know what kind of reaction to expect from people, and I was pretty scared about discussing it. But I've found that I have been given some great words of advice.

I've been able to stay rational and keep a good grasp on things. I know what's going on... at deeper levels, and also on the surface.

I think I will get through this just fine... I've been gathering knowledge and info over the years that will assist me now, and in retrospect, the time I put into that research makes a lot of sense now.

This has been an experience that was necessary for me. Whether it continues or not, time will tell. But I know this was supposed to happen, in order to teach me something.
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#39
(10-09-2020, 12:52 PM)genba Wrote: i've lately found myself in a thing in which i'm singing repetitive lyrics about one of our cats to a few different styles of songs i currently dig. over and over. sometimes like an hour straight. in moments of self reflection, i'm somewhat concerned about this. it reminds me of being really depressed and having the same hurtful broken record playing... but this time it's not a bad, hurtful thing. speaking of him, he just walked up to me with trills of affection.

This reminds me of a period of time I went through a few years ago...

I was talking to myself out loud, no fucks given. Like I'd just be talking about whatever I was watching, and instead of commentating by typing on here, for example, I'd just say it out loud.

I was sort of concerned about this behavior and my mental state back then, but honestly, it felt great. I felt happy (which has been rare in the past several years) so therefore I was not inclined to worry about it.

I actually embraced it... and eventually it passed, and I haven't really done it since.

Maybe this will be the same kind of thing.

(10-09-2020, 12:52 PM)genba Wrote: have you had your ears checked out recently? i know i sure haven't, and i know for sure i've suffered some damage from loud noises. as i've accumulated that damage, i have had more instances of thinking i'm hearing something when i'm not. my hearing gets super sensitive when i'm gettin stoned, which can make this worse.

The thought crossed my mind, especially since one of those first articles I found was on a site about hearing loss.

I have had trouble understanding what people are saying lately.

This is a very valid point...

Going to the doctor right now ain't really something I wanna do, LOL!

But if anything got bad enough I'm sure I would.

As far as my eyes go, I'm also aware that seeing the "skittering thingies" is most likely tied to my floaters. I did post that conclusion in the thread I linked about the topic, if I remember correctly.

But that's what I've determined about the visual issues...

So in all cases, it boils down to my perception of stimuli.

How to change that is really the question...

Seems like something that would take a lot of time and practice.

I'd basically have to train and condition my subconscious mind.

If I can keep handling things rationally, I guess this will naturally just happen over time.

Or at least I hope so.

I hope it's just some weird cyclical thing we're going through right now and that it's just a passing thing.

But if not, I hope I can learn to deal with it better in time.
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#40
I've found that the agitation/annoyance can lead me into undesirable emotional reactions... which I totally hate, and then it just makes things even worse for me.

I'm going to win the battle though... there's no way I'm going to allow these experiences to fuck up my life.
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