teddy in his prime
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the arrogance ! lol  

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#2
Oh God.

And an hour no less?

Am I really ready to dive into this rabbit hole so shortly after exploring Elliot Rodger?

I've never seen this. I haven't watched much with Ted Bundy in it.

I've seen a documentary about him, and I saw his final interview...



Maybe I will try to give the courtroom video a watch. I just know I'm gonna have to dissect it and it will be one of those situations where I write a novella about some shit.

But I've certainly done it on less interesting subjects, so why not.
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#3
he is a scary

him and gacy were the the most into it

if you like serial killers and often wonder why so many in the 70s 80s and 90s look into the supposed camp in the everglades that trained them

I think Otis Carr might have been the first to mention it

whoever killed the dude from america's most wanted was the one to talk about it first

sorry I am high af
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Alright, at 3:50 he starts to take the stand.

4:02, the lady is giving him the oath, the way he says "I do" is SOOO dismissive. I mean just a total skirting of the issue, 100%, absolutely no fucks given.

Wow, that smug fucking smile, what the HELL? Honest to God in my opinion, that alone just says, "I'm guilty. As fuck. And totally nuts." What the fuck does his shirt say?? This is kinda awkward since I have actually channeled Ted Bundy, and not even that long ago. http://www.sectual.com/thread-2369.html I have always kept a considerable distance from him because it's just... he's so evil. Like so freaking evil. I've tried to not really look upon him or hear him that much. Like I don't want to be tainted by that shit. And it's weird to watch this because like I said, he did come through to say some things and now I'm watching him and seeing exactly who the hell I was channeling and it's just... man. It's kind of a lot.

Like he can BARELY CONTAIN HIS LAUGHTER HERE. Right after he sits down and smiles. It's not even creepy, it's just evil.

His facial expressions give him away too. The guy is like "bring your attention to the morning of (date)" and Ted scrunches up his brow like he's attempting to remember. It's just blatant and pathetic. And it sucks to have to make these observations and say this since, like I said, I channeled him and whenever you do that, it's like you make an agreement to 'be cool' with a motherfucker and not scrutinize or 'judge' as it were. But you know me, I gotta be honest. I am not gonna hold back just because of that, and it's not like he even had anything that groundbreaking to say anyways, it was just some random shit I assume is already known anyway. I don't really even know what the point was.

4:30, he throws so much energy around trying to attention divert across other people and shit, it's really obnoxious. The way he's got his fingers in his mouth and shit right there, it's like he's literally salivating and probably physically excited over the shit that he did which they are attempting to address. You can also tell right here that he LOVES being the center of attention. Now I can see the shirt says something about "Seattle". Why the hell would he wear a shirt like that?? Why would he wear that shirt with that jacket? It doesn't go at all. What does it mean? I can only assume there must have been some kind of deeper meaning to it... no idea.

Look at the way he's sitting, it's like he's got one leg bent up on the chair. Like this is a fucking slumber party or something and he's just casually hanging out with like 30 of his best friends all chill and shit. And I will remark that I see people in the comments saying he was so "charismatic" and "normal"... holy hell, what are people smoking?? He's not "normal" at all. Charismatic, well whatever. What does that even mean in this context? What determines that he was "charismatic" in this setting?? If anything his behavior and stance is totally... smugly rebellious. Like not straight up rebellious, just a weird kind of offhand rebellious.

5:00 so immediately when he starts talking you can tell by his hand movements and facial movements that he is now "weaving" a story. He's "weaving". It's weird how he attempts to convey some strange kind of "regret" in his facial expressions while he's talking. The moment doesn't even call for that. What are they talking about? So he's talking about being pulled over by an officer. So it makes sense that he's attempting the facial expressions of "regret" and "I've been bad" considering this encounter. I am going to assume that later on when they start discussing actual grisly details, he'll refrain from using such facial expressions/mannerisms because he's trying to 'misplace' his 'guilt' by focusing on a mere 'pull over' and putting all the emphasis on that as the only 'real event' that actually happened or that he can be blamed for.

He talks in kind of a complicated manner. I've seen other people making that observation about him over the years too.

6:57, Ted Bundy was a total alcoholic. You can tell at this juncture he could use a pretty stout drink. He seems to be trying to touch on some sort of 'inebriated' feeling, he's like trying to recall it to put himself in a more comfortable space. He seems bored. A weird mix of bored, but happy to be receiving attention, but also kind of fussed to be having to put some work into seeming innocent or making up a story, or recall events that are boring to him.

I mean 8:00 and it's not AT ALL hard to see that this man is a total psycho. Like in every single way. The way he looks, the way he sounds, the way he acts. It's PLAIN. It's CLEAR. It's not a fucking mystery. And they still don't consider Ted to be a "psychopath", they JUST say he was a "sociopath" and that's it because he didn't "SEEM" crazy, but that is total bullshit. TOTAL bullshit. They try to say he was "SANE", he was NOT fucking sane. That's why I think psychology (as it's taught in courses etc.) needs to be re-written because definitions and whatnot are totally off base.

8:07, again, total alcoholic. His mannerisms are totally consumed with a deeply engrained alcoholic leaning, he is biologically an alcoholic. He is... I would say HABITUALLY an alcoholic. Really nasty.

9:18, he fucks up when he says that the officer was shining the light on something in the car for "what seemed like" a long time. That denotes concern in Ted's guilty mind because he knew what certain items in the car had been used for. Obviously very telling.

At 11:00 he sighs, sounds kind of annoyed or 'put upon' and then he touches his nose before he starts answering the question. http://changingminds.org/techniques/body...nguage.htm Nose touching usually denotes lying, or it denotes trying to remember something, usually in a negative way or with frustration. And then he puts his hands together in the triangular type of 'negotiating' way. So for him, for some reason, this question or the recounting of these details are a big deal. I have no idea what they are talking about or what led up to this or anything, so I don't know why that would be the case. Maybe it'll become apparent later, but in any case, he is really sort of fussed about this event/process and this particular juncture in the event and questioning.

11:30, he stumbles over his words in regards to the 'items' in his car, further denoting his guilt surrounding said items. I guess this is what he's so concerned about. The way he says "burglary tools" is like a relief to him because it somewhat downplays the severity of the situation. Like, oh it's just burglary tools, I didn't smash anybody's head in with that crowbar or anything! I dunno, maybe I'm wrong, like I said, I'm not even sure what this is about yet.

15:06, Ted FUCKING hates this guy. "I can help you out" ... seems like that's what Ted does when he goes into "kill mode". That's Ted's "kill mode" ... absolutely 100% the opposite of whatever he says. Honest to God, Ted was throwing off so much disruptive energy to this guy that the tape actually jumped. LOL. Okay maybe that's a lil far fetched, but... still. Weird timing.

Ted is a really mean bastard.

19:50, see it's nice to watch a normal, honest dude take the seat. Such a huge contrast between the constantly scheming Ted Bundy, and somebody who's just being real about shit.

22:20 it's interesting to see Ted's body language change when he's moving into this new role. How could anyone have ever trusted this guy?? It's sad.

You can tell he is constantly judgmental of everything and everyone. He's in a constant state of examining and calculating how he can take advantage of every single situation and person.

24:45 it's like Ted Bundy just fucking rambles on with a bunch of big words about some shit until somebody stops him and presses the point, like "WTF are you even talking about right now?" It's so weird that he decided to be his own lawyer basically. I bet he did that JUST to give himself the opportunity to change up roles and have some sort of psychological escape from the situation.

25:16, look at him, he just looks like a total criminal right there. He looks like a shrewd, hardened bastard. I mean it's just blatantly obvious who he is and what's inside him, it's so plain to see.

Ted "Attention Whore" Bundy. It's like he wanted all the attention, but on the other hand he didn't want it. He just thought he was SOOO fucking smart. He really overestimated himself... he was really just a conman and it's that simple. But from what I can see here, he didn't decide to 'be his own lawyer' JUST because he wanted attention, he also did it so that he could keep himself busy during the ordeal. The Judge is so much more laid back and smarter than Ted is. Like easy... so easy. He looks like he sees through Ted completely. So easy. It's like at a certain level, he is entertained by how... completely and totally crazy Ted is, basically.
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(07-01-2017, 10:11 PM)Dreamz Wrote: if you like serial killers and often wonder why so many in the 70s 80s and 90s look into the supposed camp in the everglades that trained them

Thanks for mentioning this, very interesting... the "Hand of Death" satanic cult murder training center.

http://floridazone.blogspot.com/2013/11/...death.html

I have heard it theorized over the years that Ted Bundy was attempting to be a politician. I've heard that he was getting started in the politician thingy and as such, he was becoming initiated. As part of the initiation of course, heinous acts which could later be used as blackmail had to be committed in order to secure loyalty. It's been theorized that Ted was so weird and crazy that the other members (politicians etc) thought he was a 'weak link' and decided to kick him out of the club essentially. Then after that, he just continued to kill people because that's just what the fucking guy did. Eventually he got caught.

It goes along with the theory that Ted was into bizarre ritual. I saw somebody say once that 'they don't tell you the kind of things Ted really did to his victims' or something like that. Apparently it was ritualistic, and it's a believable theory since he refers to an 'entity' that was within him, I think he even said that in the interview I linked above. I dunno, I'd have to watch it again. I actually haven't seen that in a while. Maybe I should examine it.
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O you guys diving into the realm of really fucked up
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So the guy goes, "For the record, you are guilty of killing many women and girls, is that correct?" Look at Ted's eyes when he's answering. What the actual fuck?? His eyes like roll around in his head and shit. I think he's thinking about his mom right there and what she's going to think about that admission. It's like he has to answer, but he's doing it through blinders and trying to 'hide' by blinking a lot.

So Ted starts talking about how "wonderful" his childhood home was and how "dedicated" his parents were, when we all know he grew up thinking his MOM was his SISTER, and that his GRANDPARENTS were his freaking mom and dad. He seems to go to a lot of trouble to make it clear that the problem WASN'T his 'home', had nothing to do with his 'home', and makes it clear that the porno mags he found in the woods were 'outside' of his 'home'. I think this is a deeply engrained issue in him that he probably never even confronted, especially considering he died the next day, just gonna go ahead and assume it's pretty unlikely he ever had time to connect those dots. He seems to be hiding even himself from the truth (in my opinion) that it was the severe psychological fuckery relating to his "SISTER" actually being his MOM (which he found out in high school) that actually started him down this bizarro path of violence. I'm not saying the porno mags didn't make some serious impression on him and give him 'inspiration' as far as what kind of demented sexual acts were possible but... the whole cause? Nah.

It seemed like he did make SOME kind of progress as a person during the time he served, but I can't really tell just what the hell it was.

It's interesting how he puts it all off on being 'possessed' and whatnot, almost again, to absolve himself of blame on some kind of level. I believe he was partly doing this for show, again, probably because of his mom. I'm not saying he's not being honest that that's how the experience was... I just think it's a little bit psychologically convenient to sum it up to being 'possessed' or some other terminology that denotes someone not being in control of their faculties.

3:42 so he does the nose touching thing again when he says "I wasn't a pervert"... that is definitely signaling lying in body language. He was definitely a pervert, and yeah, people CAN tell there's something wrong with you just by looking at you buddy. How fricken strange. It's also interesting to note how he's referring to himself in the past tense. So that could mean a few things... either he knew (obviously) that he was going to die and already considered himself dead. Or he felt that he was a different person than he used to be, or at least that he was trying hard to PORTRAY that he felt he was a different person than he used to be. Or that he was using that tense for the benefit of anyone who would see the interview, thus trying to influence their judgement of who he was. His eyes themselves though, and some of the shift movements they make in this video (like at 3:51) really do solidify in my opinion that he was exactly the same as he'd ever been, at least in all the sort of moral, truly inward ways of being that actually matter.

What's also interesting is that on some level, he does seem to be trying to paint a picture of what he sees as an 'issue' in the world, and on some level he IS trying to 'warn' people. That's exactly what he's trying to do. Perhaps that was his 'growth' as a person during his served time... more of a desire to kind of warn people about other fuckers out there who are like him. He did work a suicide hotline with a woman named Ann Rule who later wrote a book about him called "The Stranger Beside Me", and she said that Ted told her to lock her doors AS SOON as she got in her car/don't hang around with the car door open, etc.

4:14 yeah that is exactly what I thought... he's saying a lot of this stuff because he's trying to 'save' his family (mom) from further "shock and horror" upon him having to sit here and admit his guilt etc. Again, I am not saying these aren't his genuine thoughts. But there is dual purpose behind these statements he's made.

4:58 and here's the precise reason I can't hate on the guy, like 100% at least. Because he's demonizing the nasty perverted media who have been running Operation Degradation for DECADES in order to corrode the moral fabric of this country. I can't solid hate on anybody who raises this point because in my opinion it can't be overstated or called out enough.

5:07, okay, YOU DID NOT GROW UP IN A "REGULAR" FAMILY TED. For fuck's total sake. Again with this shit. Ted thought his MOTHER was his SISTER. He thought his GRANDPARENTS were his MOM and DAD. And nobody really even knows WHO knocked up his teenage mother either... it's even been speculated that her weird kinda violent/alcoholic dad knocked her up himself. Yeah. No shit. So don't be spouting that fucking load of bullshit talking about "growing up in a normal family". Rant off.

I still appreciate him demonizing these 'influences' though. It's a real problem, and I do feel like it's an honest rap from him. He means what he's saying.

7:33 so when this guy asks him what his life would have been like without the porno influence, he thinks about it briefly and then you can tell that either on a conscious or subconscious level he starts considering the OTHER reasons and influences which ACTUALLY caused him to be the way he was, or at least encouraged him to go down that path. And since he can't actually touch on those issues, his answer has to be formulated.

8:13 he accidentally says "evolved" instead of involved... let me think about what this means. Without knowing the true reasons, at least whatever he THOUGHT the true reasons were behind his behavior, it's kinda hard to know. Seems like more of a subconscious slip (as Freudians typically are) rather than anything conscious, so I doubt he even knows.

8:37 so the guy is asking him essentially if he feels remorse toward all the families etc. and you can tell by his face and subtle movements that actually, no. Just no. He doesn't fucking care. The nod/eye movements at specifically 8:44 100% gives it away. The way his hands are clasped also says "Dude, just STFU." Someone like Ted's mom would interpret that body language as "Please don't talk about it anymore, I just can't bear to think of it." Whereas I construe them as meaning, "Don't care about this topic, nails on a chalkboard, shut the fuck up, thanks."

8:50 he starts begrudgingly 'save face' style discussing how he's been talking (halfheartedly I can only assume) to investigators about murders so they can tie up loose ends or whatever. But no adequate progress was really made and he took his exit from this world with a bunch of details and secrets that obviously he's basically powerless to shed any light on at this point. I'll mention my channeling of Ted at this point because I think with that communication, the most important (albeit lackluster as far as any specific detail) point he made was something about bodies in caves. There is a desire on his end to give more details in order to 'lay to rest' these disturbed souls and families that were effected. Unfortunately... lil too late for that because he's DEAD. Even with the best channel in the world, it's fairly unlikely anything concrete could ever be communicated to actually lead anybody to any remains. I KNOW that was the point of his communication and unfortunately, what was relayed wasn't... at all helpful or definitive. I won't demean it entirely. I won't say it was disappointing. It's just that at this juncture, Ted is so fragmented and in the middle of dissipation that nothing of any real cohesive detail is likely to get across. That's his own damn fault. Instead of keeping it tight to his chest for the 10 years he was in prison, maybe he should have been giving details the entire time. Alas, he was evil and he wanted to keep it to himself, and now I think he's paying the price. Having said that, he is falling apart so rapidly that it's really... unfocused and just a continuation of the decay his life became once he was caught and then did his time.

Also I'd like to note how at 8:58 he touches his nose again upon the mention of 'unsolved cases' denoting that he is STILL lying, he was STILL holding back, and that's because he's fricken damn evil as all out absolute total fuck.

Having said all that, man, on the real... Ted was probably super drunk when he committed like basically all of those heinous acts. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually was cloudy in his mind in some aspects. That's something that should be considered, although it's not a dismissal. He could remember enough to help more than he decided to. It's an interesting point I'd never considered before watching this just now. It's like Ted's memory and essence in the afterlife is a weird drunken blur just like his life was when he was committing these atrocities. That's really kind of fascinating.

9:52 okay this is perhaps the most interesting part of all. Basically Ted cuts the crap right here and gets around to his ultimate point which is that there are people out there just like him and everyone needs to watch the fuck out. That's the crux of it. He also makes another very uncanny Freudian when he says, "There is loose ... people like me today." I think he even kind of realized the fuck up after he said it, but whatever. It basically indicates that he's exactly the same as he ever was, and if ANYTHING... on some levels he's even worse. Because he had time to think about it, he received punishment, he was faced with death... and he's STILL totally fucked up inside and he damn well knows it. And still on top of that, he's spinning more narrative and telling more lies in this very interview... the same, right to the grave.

10:26 he makes a great point, and he's being totally genuine and honest. He's saying even the violent and disturbing tripe on cable TV is bad enough to warp minds and set people off to become the kind of monsters who will behave in the same way he did. That's basically showing that he KNOWS about the evil that can be inherent in humanity... that it's there, it's underlying, and the best case scenario is that nothing ever happens (violent imagery, demented ideas, etc) to ROUSE it in people. He is basically saying this evil exists within him, he's well acquainted with it, he recognizes it in humanity as a whole, and it's OUT THERE right now, and the only hope is to not pour the fertilizer on it and bring it to life and make it grow.

He's right about this... he's 100% right about it and that's why I can't totally hate the guy. He did A COUPLE good things in his life. He warned people in a few useful ways. That's about it. That's about all that can be said for him.

12:09 so this guy keeps going on about how people are pissed at Ted for being a homicidal asshole, and then he goes for the water like, "Yup, I'm done. Good talk. Bye now." 12:12, ROFL... ah man. That expression, the nod. It would be unabashedly funny if he wasn't such a total monster. No fucks, he gives no fucks. Not at all. Good show there bud. Thanks for warning us about the porno and the violence in media... I totally appreciate it. His little dismissive statements about death at the end are totally priceless too... he doesn't care at all, he sees it as no big deal, and I really do think he figured he'd be right back as somebody else as soon as the ride was over. But I don't think that's what happened, at least not in the way he expected it to.
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If you read about him, everyone who analyzed him and tried to diagnose him pretty much say that he was the embodiment of pure evil. He absolutely had ZERO empathy or remorse. He didn't even register those emotions.

One doctor said he told his students that if they ever could find a true psychopath, he'd by them dinner. He said Ted Bundy was a true psychopath...  a thing he used to say did not exist.

A couple other people said that they witnessed him change into a different being pretty much.... different face and body and personality.... and even an odor...  pure evil, and at that point is when they became very afraid of him. One of those people was his aunt and the other was one of the detectives or doctors that interviewed him after he was already behind bars.

These people are highly intelligent and masters at manipulating other very intelligent people. The most dangerous kind of person you could ever have misfortune to cross paths with.

Do not EVER trust a stranger! EVER!  

Read about how he lured women. A lot of them were by playing on their compassion and acting disabled or in need of help. He was handsome and charming. Be super fucking careful and never, ever trust a stranger no matter how nice they seem. If someone truly needs help, call someone to help them.
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So many of these serial killers seem to point to the fact that they are just being told what to do , which is odd when you consider  the mass media seems to paint them as self absorbed ego maniacs .  Found this interesting documentary  that seems to back the 'hand of death'  story .  First part  has some amazing quotes from the top serial killers : Programmed to kill

"no one wants to believe the cult story . The TV people cut it out . The writers don't write about it . " Henry Lee Lucas - (creepy sidenote : death sentence commuted by george w. bush , accomplice Otis Toole death sentence commuted by Jeb bush)

"After the use of the hypnotic drug I had the strange compulsion to take the blame for all the charges pressed against me . It must have been a post-hypnotic influence . "  William Heirens  ( found this odd quote from his fellow classmate ""I remember the most popular boy in my class, who was handsome, smart and a good dancer. We all wanted to dance with him - the foxtrot, tango or a waltz. It didn't really matter." )

"Our goal was to create lawlessness and disorder everywhere"  Berkowitz 

"I must have done it if everyone says I did" Richard Speck 

"People want to believe that I am at the centre of everything . They are mistaken . I did things of which I was not the driving force. I was used as an instrument by others , who were themselves used as instruments by others .  "  Marc Dutroux(child serial killer ,belgium 1996)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUrqLhbfjeo&list=PLDDDB473590ECEA60




wow @4:45  in part 2 wayne williams , who had written autobiography detailing his training to kill  near a lake in florida,  then refuses to talk about it when questioned while in prison : 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mXbj_wMmpA&index=2&list=PLDDDB473590ECEA60
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(07-01-2017, 10:51 PM)Trix Wrote:
(07-01-2017, 10:11 PM)Dreamz Wrote: if you like serial killers and often wonder why so many in the 70s 80s and 90s look into the supposed camp in the everglades that trained them

Thanks for mentioning this, very interesting... the "Hand of Death" satanic cult murder training center.

http://floridazone.blogspot.com/2013/11/...death.html

I have heard it theorized over the years that Ted Bundy was attempting to be a politician. I've heard that he was getting started in the politician thingy and as such, he was becoming initiated. As part of the initiation of course, heinous acts which could later be used as blackmail had to be committed in order to secure loyalty. It's been theorized that Ted was so weird and crazy that the other members (politicians etc) thought he was a 'weak link' and decided to kick him out of the club essentially. Then after that, he just continued to kill people because that's just what the fucking guy did. Eventually he got caught.

It goes along with the theory that Ted was into bizarre ritual. I saw somebody say once that 'they don't tell you the kind of things Ted really did to his victims' or something like that. Apparently it was ritualistic, and it's a believable theory since he refers to an 'entity' that was within him, I think he even said that in the interview I linked above. I dunno, I'd have to watch it again. I actually haven't seen that in a while. Maybe I should examine it.

From the link you provide...




"This would sound like absolute pure-D-baloney if not for the fact that both men told the same story separately, in different prisons to different interrogators. They claimed to have met a man calling himself Don Meteric who invited them to come to Miami and do "contract killings" for the Hand of Death. Meteric and Toole eventually admitted to Lucas that Toole had already been working for Meteric for years. According to Court TV, Lucas later said that at the time, he’d felt betrayed by Ottis and manipulated by him into joining the cult. Be that as it may, Lucas happily stayed a member and committed many more murders at their behest."

GIVES ME SHIVERS
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the drug I believe they and others are given

https://youtu.be/ToQ8PWYnu04


think about this for a minute and go back and look at sirhan sirhan or whatever that douchebags name was that shot robert k

reread the arresting officers account of finding the batman killer in his car. (fuck no I don't believe he pulled the trigger but I do believe he was drugged and forced to do some weird shit.)

i could go on and on
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(07-03-2017, 07:00 AM)Kitty Von Catsworth Wrote: So many of these serial killers seem to point to the fact that they are just being told what to do , which is odd when you consider  the mass media seems to paint them as self absorbed ego maniacs .  Found this interesting documentary  that seems to back the 'hand of death'  story .  First part  has some amazing quotes from the top serial killers : Programmed to kill

"no one wants to believe the cult story . The TV people cut it out . The writers don't write about it . " Henry Lee Lucas - (creepy sidenote : death sentence commuted by george w. bush , accomplice Otis Toole death sentence commuted by Jeb bush)

"After the use of the hypnotic drug I had the strange compulsion to take the blame for all the charges pressed against me . It must have been a post-hypnotic influence . "  William Heirens  ( found this odd quote from his fellow classmate ""I remember the most popular boy in my class, who was handsome, smart and a good dancer. We all wanted to dance with him - the foxtrot, tango or a waltz. It didn't really matter." )

"Our goal was to create lawlessness and disorder everywhere"  Berkowitz 

"I must have done it if everyone says I did" Richard Speck 

"People want to believe that I am at the centre of everything . They are mistaken . I did things of which I was not the driving force. I was used as an instrument by others , who were themselves used as instruments by others .  "  Marc Dutroux(child serial killer ,belgium 1996)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUrqLhbfjeo&list=PLDDDB473590ECEA60




wow @4:45  in part 2 wayne williams , who had written autobiography detailing his training to kill  near a lake in florida,  then refuses to talk about it when questioned while in prison : 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mXbj_wMmpA&index=2&list=PLDDDB473590ECEA60

I grew up with the sons of a chief of police down here in SoFlo

He was a Captain at the time this all was happening but he told us about this camp before it was widely known in the public.

Told us never to ride too far down Griffin Road toward the west(everglades).

Florida has a strange history with this kinda shit. Almost all the big time serial killers spent some time down here, it seems

or in the military (jeff dahmer, others too)

;)

On a totally unrelated note...

Remember hypercolor shirts?

I was wearing one fishing one day and the same guy lights his marlboro light, looks at my shirt and says to me

"The Japs are gonna make tvs out of the same crystals and they will be so thin and light you can hang them on your wall and you will think you are looking out a window"

guy knew his shit, he was like a John fucking wayne this guy
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(07-03-2017, 09:39 AM)Dreamz Wrote: Remember hypercolor shirts?

I was wearing one fishing one day and the same guy lights his marlboro light, looks at my shirt and says to me

"The Japs are gonna make tvs out of the same crystals and they will be so thin and light you can hang them on your wall and you will think you are looking out a window"

guy knew his shit, he was like a John fucking wayne this guy

Wow... I find that oddly arousing.

It's fascinating. How did he know?

Are there a bunch of psychic future-tellers running around out there keeping their experiences to themselves?

As for scopolamine "The Devil's Breath"... listening to old Mae Brussell broadcasts and all her research on mind control methods, it's well documented there are lots of different ways to control the mind. Drugs, implants, electronics... http://www.sectual.com/thread-1231.html It's been going on for decades and decades.

There is a massive amount of military land in Florida. Probably second only to places like Nevada when it comes to secret ops. When you start driving into south Florida and there's NOTHING around for a long way, that's all military. Training camps in Florida would be about the least surprising thing in the world.

But it's also important to note that if it's widely known about, then it's also probably less and less active from the point in time it became compromised. They have compounds like that all over the country, I would assume.

Now going back to Bundy... we all know there are a lot of whacked out cult activities taking place in Utah, around the Salt Lake City area. I am reminded of Teal Swan and her stories about experiences with the ritualistic abuse in Mormon cults around the region. It's not unthinkable that Ted may have been involved with some of these cults, but I really feel like rather than being born into it, or recruited into it, he probably stumbled upon it. Law of attraction type deal... he was evil, and he stumbled into situations that were equally evil. It is possible that he traveled to Florida to check out the other 'hot' ritual location. Who knows, really. Nothing would surprise me, but regardless, I maintain HE found THEM.
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#14
A lot of technology is actually from stuff that you could have read about many years before it came out. CD's were like that. We learned about them in school many years before they ever came out.

When I was about 12, my little fat neighbor kid buddy told me about the plane that was invisible on radar that his dad was working on. He told me that it had radar absorbing paint and everything and this was in the mid seventies. No one had even remotely heard of that shit back then.... or at least it was not common knowledge.
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#15
Wow.

Reminds me of Alex Jones and how he's been talking about human-animal chimeras for decades and people have been making fun of him the entire time...

Cuz a lot of that stuff he heard from people who had actually seen it in person, all those years ago...

And decades later it's only just now being slowly trickled out and admitted to be happening.

I'll take that as a lesson to listen to people... at least taking their info down in a book of memory, even if it's not something I personally believe.
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#16
(07-03-2017, 03:02 PM)Trix Wrote: Wow.

Reminds me of Alex Jones and how he's been talking about human-animal chimeras for decades and people have been making fun of him the entire time...

Cuz a lot of that stuff he heard from people who had actually seen it in person, all those years ago...

And decades later it's only just now being slowly trickled out and admitted to be happening.

I'll take that as a lesson to listen to people... at least taking their info down in a book of memory, even if it's not something I personally believe.

It's true.

Another thing the fat kid told me is that the military can listen through your windows with lasers from space. About ten years later, Arizona had a crazy governor who ended up being recalled. Look up Gov. Evan Mecham.

Anyway, Ev was not really crazy.. he just was really old school and he said some questionable shit.

But one thing he was saying is that he was being listened in on by lasers. The local press made fun of him for that and acted like he was crazy,  but I believed him!
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#17
Check it out

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/22/us/mec...asers.html

"Mr. Mecham told a group of lawyers at a breakfast meeting Tuesday that he believed someone might be using laser beams to spy on conversations at his office in the state Capitol and at his home, two lawyers said today. One of the lawyers, Ernest Calderon, said the Governor told them he played the radio all the time to keep laser beams out."
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#18
Holy freaking crap...

This has been going on for such a long time :(

GG, I really appreciate your knowledge pool and sharing these links that nobody would be able to find or share without some kind of personal knowledge. This is the sort of communication that is priceless to me.

We are absolutely being surveilled via so many methods. This penchant for studying people is innate... in my opinion, it is largely the purpose of existence as a whole. It makes sense that it would be carried out through as many methods as possible and devisable... by parties and for purposes both good and evil.
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#19
(07-03-2017, 03:10 PM)GG Wrote: Check it out

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/22/us/mec...asers.html

"Mr. Mecham told a group of lawyers at a breakfast meeting Tuesday that he believed someone might be using laser beams to spy on conversations at his office in the state Capitol and at his home, two lawyers said today. One of the lawyers, Ernest Calderon, said the Governor told them he played the radio all the time to keep laser beams out."

That's a real thing. I made a video about it you can ease drop with only video of an object in a room the later works the same way records the vibration off of inanimate objects and then you have Data you can recover Audio
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#20
there is nowhere to hide hhaha
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