Mark Comings: Free Energy Physicist

[Guest]

You sound way more interesting than Mark.

For certain values of "interesting"? I'll take that as a compliment then.  

The years 1995-2002 were kind of a wild ride for me. I met a lot of strange and interesting people during that time. Psychics, UFOlogists, gurus, psychedelic psychonauts, free energy inventors, even a couple of outright million-dollar fraudsters. I was kind of the token skeptic of the bunch. Some of the things Mark told me are literally beyond belief. Unfortunately I know nothing of him, beyond what is discussed here, after 2002. I recall doing some research into the Hathor Ascension Movement and Gabrielle Klonek, as she was known then, in 2000-2001. I don't think Mark was involved with them until after ET took ill. I don't think I ever heard of Carl Jensen until I started looking into Mark.
At that time the "HAM" sounded like another Northern California quasi-religious commune looking for members, with Klonek (Hathor) as the guru. They made various promises like total debt forgiveness, as I recall. Smelled fishy to me even then.

[Mister Obvious]

Sounds like Mark was just another 'drhoecker' type...

[tfernsle]

Yeah I was looking this up, I don't know whether its the same guy you listed in obituary.
https://www.wired.com/2002/12/prayer/
His partner did die.
Her boyfriend, Mark Comings, was a theoretical physicist. He felt that an eight-dimensional universe could explain how a healer in Santa Fe could influence a patient in San Francisco: In our ordinary three-dimensional world, healer and patient appear far apart, but in one of the as-yet-unmeasurable extra dimensions, they'd be in the same place. Targ would shake him off – speculation wasn't for her. She had patients to care for.

I'd like to hear more about Mark Comings' eight-dimensional universe. It matches up with suppressed 19th century mathematics (bi-quaternions; an extension of complex numbers) that I stumbled across. They do a much better job of computing particle movements and interactions than Einstein's Tensor Calculus (27 dimensions, often used in string theory).

[Sabface]

What’s so bad about having a free energy device ?

There's nothing bad about it for humanity,  it's bad for the losers that profit off of us for energy services and products.

[Hathor]

I knew Mark Comings for several years before his marriage to Elisabeth Targ. I worked with him at the "ISSO" laboratory in San Francisco... or rather, we set up a facility for him to use to reproduce his claimed Berkeley crystal experimental phenomenon as well as some other projects he pitched to the lab coordinator who was at that time a NASA scientist. But Mark did not spend more than a few minutes in "his" lab and of course never reproduced anything of interest other than lots and lots of verbiage. He had 2 uncanny powers: He could cause computers and test equipment to fail just by walking past them, and he could hold even educated people in hypnotic fascination while he talked about his conjectures and delusions. (I on the other hand could make faulty equipment start working again by touching it, and could bore whole classrooms of students into falling asleep within ten minutes. So I know whereof I speak.)
I had moved on to other things by the time Elisabeth found out about her glioblastoma and married Mark out of some kind of desperation. During her last days at Hayfields, Mark was around, as well as many other friends of hers. I was dismayed by his attitude towards the whole thing, and that was the last I saw of him.
Later on I tried to find him and found out that he had gotten involved with something called the "Hathor Ascension Movement" led by Gabrielle Hathor (aka Gabrielle Wilson, Maha Devi, others) which later morphed into the "Mahi Ascension Movement" and "Ananda Health Resort" cult. A lot more of this story can be found in comments at https://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?12,27266,53744
I have no idea where he is now, whether he is alive or dead. Certainly the obituary for "Mark David Comings" that has been linked is not the same fellow at all.

I also worked at ISSO and was around the hayfields at that same time. In someways, you could say I was Mark’s best friend. I wonder who you are…

[Guest]

Does anyone have ideas about how he built his device?

[Dark Dick]

[Guest]

He’s still working on his experiments but he’s gone into hiding somewhere in the Far East. He was threatened by government agents to stop what he was doing regarding his zero point energy experiments or else they’d expose the “CCTV he set up to spy on women in the campus gyms locker room” which clearly scared him out of country and underground.

very very interesting !! glad to hear that he's still alive - wishing so in 2022 !!

[Guest]

Why would the government not want free energy?

bcuz the federal government would NOT be able to CONTROLLLLLL people if energy was free

[klindquist]

Thanks for allowing my post to come through so quickly. I'm kind of hoping that shaking the tree may make some newer information about Mark to fall out. As far as I have been able to determine the trail goes cold in Hong Kong a decade or more ago.
One other point about the Berkeley crystal overunity experiment that has been reported so many times. It was the impression, shared by me and other people at ISSO, that Mark did not actually have the technical expertise and practical knowledge necessary to conduct an experiment of that kind, or perform proper measurement and analysis. I don't think he actually understood how to operate an oscilloscope or an arbitrary waveform generator, for example. Certainly I never observed him to do anything the least bit technical at ISSO's SF laboratory, even though we had specifically set up various workstations (electronic, electromechanical, chemical) for him to use. When his bluff was called, he just sort of faded away.
I don't think he was lying, exactly, in his accounts of the Berkeley experiment and the subsequent raid and the night spent in detention at the campus police station. Rather, I think his psychological state at the time may have caused him to... er... misinterpret events and make unwarranted associations, which he later reported as facts that he himself believed, but which had little relationship to consensus reality.

I was randomly thinking about the strangeness of my life circa 2002-2004, which had various touch points with Mark. By the time I met him, his wife had already passed away - but it must have been just recently, though it sounded like historical canon even at that point. The connection was via my bf at the time, a brilliant and highly unusual human (hi Nynex if you happen to read this). Mark was very kind to the two of us, and he was such a lovely and sincere presence that I found myself believing that he really did talk to his dead wife (though I was 19 yrs old at the time, lacking any cognitive inoculation against conspiracy theory thinking).

Mark helped Nynex and I land in place called Crestone, Colorado, which was greatly appreciated because we were a fairly desperate situation (no need to go into why, although I'll just note that magical thinking is often followed closely by desperation). We had a first row seat to his execution of the Abundance Ray scam. It's really difficult to imagine Mark intentionally scamming anyone - but OTOH scam artists are known for their charisma. Nonetheless, it's easier to see Mark as someone with a great deal of cognitive flexibility and superhuman skills of rationalization, perhaps a patsy. Regardless of his inner experience, however, it doesn't change the reality that he scammed people out of some of their retirement money, which presumably they needed. That sucks.

What a strange time. I have my gripes with the default world (don't we all?) but I'm glad to be far away from the vortex of magical thinking. Perhaps magical thinking inevitably goes to dark places, because the easiest excuse for failed predictions is "bad people didn't want this good thing to happen." Since those times, I've developed a strong aversion to it. Innocent as it may be on the surface, magical thinking can turn grotesquely corrosive (as far worse Crestone horror stories attest, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Has_Won).