Elon Musk pumping Dogecoin...

[Mister Obvious]

They should have like 10 kids.

Okay okay okay.

I'm getting carried away, even the richest man in the world probably can't go that far with the high paid, carefully chosen surrogate bodies involved and everything, but...

The possibilities seem fairly fucking endless as far as I can tell.

Like, think about it...

You'd just need a bunch of her eggs, and his sperm is gonna be on tap for as long as he lives, so he's solid.

If they've been extracting Grimes' EGGS!!??!?!??!!/?!!?

Having them FROZEN!??!?!!

Maybe they have a STOCKPILE of her eggs.

How many eggs can you get extracted and frozen and use this way though?

I don't know ANYTHING about it.

But it seems like they could do this indefinitely.

Like they could still be having children using this method when Grimes is 50 and Elon is like 70.

Think about the karmic, soul level entanglement between those two.

THINK ABOUT IT.

It's absolutely fucking gorgeous, oh my God I'm obsessed!

This is BEAUTIFUL.

[Mister Obvious]

The whole surrogate aspect can't really be understated though...

Cuz when you bear a child, there's a connection there no matter what.

Their body is made up of your consumed elements during the formation process.

So yeah like, it's Grimes' eggs and Elon's sperm, but the childbearer...

Hmmm.

There's a whole lot to consider there.

I can't imagine you'd feel nothing and have no attachment after carrying a child for 9 months...

The psychological and physiological effects must be very intense.

There's something rather unnatural about that kinda thing, and hopefully whatever compensation was in that contract covers therapy for the surrogate.

Cuz you'd need to talk to a pro after that process, even if you thought you wouldn't need to or maybe still deny the idea that you need to.

Seems like kind of a potentially hairy situation. I mean obviously on paper and in contract, I'm sure Elon covered their asses.

But mentally, emotionally, spiritually...

There have to be consequences.

[Mister Obvious]

Wonder who they used and how that person was chosen??

I wonder if this is gonna set off a trend?

I fucking LOVE this idea.

Getting to have your own biological children, but sparing your body the trauma??

Wow, holy shit, what a brilliant concept.

Wonder if Grimes had a hard time post-partum and that's why they decided on this?

A LOT of women have an extremely hard time in every single aspect of their lives and being after they give birth...

Sometimes for years.

I feel like it was probably more geared toward saving her body though, which is fine.

I'll admit, when I heard about her first pregnancy/birth, I was afraid she'd be all physically fucked up after that.

But she pulled through REALLY well. Extraordinarily well, great job.

She probably just didn't wanna do it again/wasn't sure she could.

I don't blame her at all. In fact, I think this should be a choice more readily available in the future for people.

[Mister Obvious]

https://reproductivehealthwellness.com/w...during-ivf

In general, an average of 8 to 14 eggs are typically retrieved from a woman's ovaries with IVF; however, its ultimately not the number of eggs that matter but the quality. 1 high quality egg is better than 20 poor quality eggs when it comes to success rates.

https://www.brightexpectationsagency.com...o-i-donate

In reality, the exact number of eggs that are retrieved during a cycle is usually somewhere between 10 and 20.

So if she keeps doing these extraction processes and saves a bunch of eggs...

She could potentially have 10 kids for real.

It seems like it's possible from what little I've read.

If I was Elon and Grimes, I'd make sure there was a store of her eggs for decades into the future...

And we already know how I feel about Elon/genius sperm freezing...

https://www.sectual.com/thread-1036.html

TBH, I want to hear about some random person getting incubated with an Elon fertilized Grimes egg in the 2060s, but that's just me.

[Mister Obvious]

This story really just broke so there aren't many details beyond that initial article...

Hopefully we don't find out that the "surrogate" was really just some other chick Elon fucked while he and Grimes were broken up...

*facepalm*

I want Elon AND Grimes genetics here.

Not one or the other.

Both.

And I have to be honest...

I'm gonna get very second-hand jealous if Elon starts going around doing this surrogate thingy with other women.

Like, I know, I literally said he should go on a world-wide impregnation campaign, but like...

I just feel like he and Grimes have something really special.

He can totally freeze gallons of his sperm to be utilized by women all over the world into the 2100s or whatever but...

For his own super personal children, I want them all to be with Grimes because I'm selfish and totally biased.

[Mister Obvious]

This is magical.

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I'm watching the video in that Vanity Fair article now...

Grimes' sort of lisp is just adorable...

If I was Elon, I'd want her babies too.

So I can totally understand why he's this dedicated to the mission.

[Mister Obvious]

I'll be super pissed if I find out the baby isn't really genetically both theirs though...

That'd be some bullshit.

Hopefully it really is what I've interpreted it as, because that's cool as fuck.

[Mister Obvious]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertain...9451712002

Wow, so according to these articles...

It was an "accidental" announcement on the part of Grimes while an interview was being conducted with her in her home.

Apparently the interviewer heard a baby crying upstairs and eventually Grimes admitted that there was a baby (hers and Elon's) birthed by surrogate in December.

She basically said she doesn't approve of how public Ash (X) is due to Elon showing him a lot.

I noticed in that Vanity Fair vid that she didn't really wanna hover over the photo of him too long, she seems to want to keep her kids out of the public eye which is absolutely for the best...

I personally think kids (of celebrities and everybody else) should be kept out of the public eye til they're basically fuckin' 18, lol.

For real.

Anyway, from this article...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertain...9451712002

"She's a little colicky too," Grimes added, before laughing and covering her face. "I don't know. I don't know what I was thinking."

Hmmm, interesting...

I'm sure one of the reasons Claire doesn't really like talking about these ultra serious personal topics is because sometimes she says things that could be misinterpreted or otherwise spun by asshole media.

But "I don't know what I was thinking" kinda suggests... well, a lot.

My first impression is that this was a pressure situation.

It sounds like Grimes was pressured into giving Elon more progeny, then someone (either Elon, or herself) presented "the surrogate solution"...

Which, as I said, is absolutely fucking brilliant.

BUT...

If it was straight up Elon's idea, think about that shit...

He wants her babies soooooo bad that he literally facilitated this surrogacy situation.

He wanted more children with Grimes, no matter what the fuck he had to do.

I guess that was the only way he could really get them, short of tying her up and blowing loads until one of them took.

I mean I hate to be graphic, but what other explanation could there really be??

She didn't wanna have more children via her own body for some reason...

Probably because pregnancy and childbirth are heinously traumatic for more reasons than we can even begin to touch on.

Bottom line...

It seems Elon wanted Grimes for breeding and he wasn't gonna settle for like... not.

So what's the deal?? Does he love her or something?? She says they're best friends or whatever. Is he like SUUUUPER hung up on her?? I mean, I should fucking hope so. I should hope he's doing this because he's like, in love with her or something.

But if he starts going around having kids with even more women at this point, then no, I mean... that would suggest he DOESN'T love her, or he's NOT doing this BECAUSE he's mega in love with her.

So what the heck happened here?

Is Elon obsessed with Grimes' progeny and did he damn near push her away with his needs/desires?

Did he somehow save the situation at the last minute by offering the surrogacy solution??

If Elon's a narcissist, but he's still REALLY likeable (rare), I'd imagine it'd be quite hard to truly separate from him.

Think about the situation Claire finds herself in...

By some bizarre twist of fate, Elon comes up with this silly fake/character name, then Googles it to see if anyone else had thought of it, then finds Grimes...

Imagine that. Imagine you're Grimes, just chillin', being super eccentric and eclectic...

And out of fucking NOWHERE, Elon fucking Musk just comes along and starts chatting you up.

What the fuck kind of shit is that? That's an INSANE situation. How would you ever defend against that?? You basically couldn't. You'd have to have ice veins and pretty much just not even be human.

There's no way.

So Elon starts chatting her up, starts laying that freaky dick on her (it's probably pretty good for both parties, TBH) and she finds herself on the red carpet with him, all starry-eyed and giddy in love.

Like some kind of wild fairy tale, like the wildest dream ever.

Then he's like, "Hey, have my babychild."

HOW COULD YOU SAY NO!??!?!?!?!! HOW COULD YOU FUCKING SAY NO?!>!?!?!?!?! You COULDN'T. That's how.

And we all know, when two mere mortals have a babychild together, it's basically the end of any freedom whatsoever on any level (for the woman at least) and you're both totally entangled together for the rest of all time.

Like wow.

For REGULAR PEOPLE, that's the case. But for GRIMES?! With ELON FUCKING MUSK as her BABYDADDY?!

Are you fucking kidding?

It's leagues beyond an impossible situation.

Leagues and leagues beyond.

So it all becomes this tangled intricate crazy mess of undoubtedly HUGELY manipulative masterminding by Elon toward Grimes...

Until eventually, she ALMOST gets away. But she isn't successful in doing so, and furthermore, he comes up with this BRILLIANT surrogate scheme on a wing and a prayer while his foot's just barely hanging on in the door of Grimes' world.

And she goes for it.

That's what I'm thinking happened here.

Fascinating.

[Mister Obvious]

The thing is, if Elon plans to go and start doing this replication thingy with other women at this point??

Well he better make damn sure he continues to be a VERY likable guy.

Very, very, very fucking likeable in just about every single way he can possibly manage...

[Mister Obvious]

Cuz what in the fuck was with that Natasha situation?? What, is she next??

I was okay with the idea initially because I didn't know that he and Grimes literally ALREADY HAD ANOTHER FREAKIN' BABY IN THE WORKS and ACCORDING TO GRIMES, are planning on MORE?!

So, what, is Elon just gonna go around with multiple women and knock THEM up TOO???

Because if I was Grimes, that's where I'd draw the line on my personal involvement here.

I wouldn't be a cuck to that degree.

If he wants to stick the dick to random women, it's whatever I guess.

Like, I dunno that I'd personally be okay with it...

But if Grimes is fine with it, whatever I guess.

BUT. If he's gonna start impregnating those fricken women too??

Like no. I'd draw the line there.

Because what's he gonna do? Play daddy to all his babies and maintain relationships with all these women??

He's not fricken omnipotent, let's not get ridiculous here.

My "Genius Sperm" idea is brilliant and absolutely should be done...

Elon is a great candidate for it. Read all about my plan for global genius progeny domination in the thread...

"Save the babybatter! Sperm freezing needs to happen NOW, on a wide scale"
https://www.sectual.com/thread-1036.html

The idea ISN'T for the geniuses (and really really good-looking men) to go around actually HAVING SEX WITH ALL THE WOMEN.

They're only supposed to be shot up with the sperm, insemination style, sperm bank style.

They're not supposed to get the load personally delivered to them by said genius (or really really good-looking dude).

That wasn't the plan.

Do it right or don't do it at all, fucker.

We need to hold on to some semblance of normality here.

Just stick with Grimes.

You can dole the babybatter out in a totally non-personal way that doesn't involve flying bitches around on your personal jet, mkay.

I am gonna come out Team Grimes every time here...

Do Grimes wrong, and honestly, you're screwed.

Not because I say so, but because Grimes is a pure spirit/soul and things never go right when you fuck those kinda people over.

Fricken Elon...

Bro needs to be careful how he proceeds with this whole mission because if he starts making people dislike him, that's not good.

Stay likeable and respectable, Elon, for God's sake. There's a lot riding on you, buddy.

[Mister Obvious]

I don't give a fuck if he IS the father of modern space travel or the richest man in the world...

At the end of the day, he's just a man, and men ain't shit.

So he better just keep it in line.

Pioneer the genius babybatter freezing/distribution future...

Don't fuck this up and end up on the "crazy mega rich guy who went ham and tried to impregnate every woman in the world personally" page in history.

[Mister Obvious]

And as for Grimes?

She DIDN'T carry that child in her belly for 9 months.

Somebody else did...

And there are a LOT of under-discussed, totally neglected, absolutely critical psychological/emotional effects to consider due to that fact.

I kind of touched on this IVF topic in another thread...

"Will anyone ever talk about the differences between IVF babies and natural babies?"
https://www.sectual.com/thread-11498.html

In essence...

What if she struggles in connecting to the child because it just sort of randomly came into her life one day once it was fully developed, ready, and birthed by someone else?

In a sense, it was simply dropped into her life.

What if there's some sort of lack of hormonal component that facilitates a connection and nurturing response, because she DIDN'T go through that entire hormonal process, grow it in her own body, and give birth to it?

These are very serious points to consider.

I would say that there is a lot to think about when it comes to taking the surrogate approach in the future.

I hope she's okay, and obviously if she's having trouble caring for it properly since it's got colic and is particularly upset...

There need to be people hired to help her take care of it. It's called a fuckin' nanny.

But anyway...

The exact sort of over-analysis and wild speculation taking place in this thread is a perfect example of exactly why she'll probably regret every single fricken word she said in the interview and probably in general, lol.

What a nightmare.

I just hope she's getting proper support and folks to assist her if she's having a hard time.

It must be a really weird situation.

From the article...

Grimes says her daughter's life will err on the private side. "The best situation here is me training the girl and (Musk) training the boy."

I like the language she uses, "training" lol. I appreciate that outlook, I think it's pretty cool.

They're definitely approaching things in a very unique way and I hope it works out well so that they can do it again.

At the end of the day, she's only human (as much as I'm sure she wouldn't love to admit it) and at least she occupies a position where help in basically every form is easily attainable, because money buys.

[Mister Obvious]

"Save the babybatter! Sperm freezing needs to happen NOW, on a wide scale"
https://www.sectual.com/thread-1036.html

I just realized that thread is 5 years old, today...

[Mister Obvious]

IT'S A SIGN THOUGH.

Elon, don't let us down.

Make all our genius babybatter dreams come true, but in the best way possible for the highest and greatest good of all...

[Mister Obvious]

I didn't even see the part about the surrogacy for like my first 20 posts about this situation, so sorry for the erroneous shite a few pages back, but...

I'm actually glad it went that way because my reaction may have been different if I'd realized it any sooner.

Legit I was more excited about the situation than I would be if somebody in my own damn family had a baby lmao, I shit you not.

[Mister Obvious]

I just couldn't contain myself.

My reactions and comments on situations are like an orgasmic intellectual explosion for me, so it just follows its own pace.

[Mister Obvious]

Oxytocin is released during pregnancy and childbirth...

So if you didn't actually give birth to the child yourself, you'd basically have to just REALLY love babies in order to feel the necessary amount of caring/nurturing that is required to form a strong bond with the baby.

That's my main concern about the situation.

[Mister Obvious]

All I know for sure is this...

When you're the richest man in the world (and you're NOT ugly, has this ever even happened before?)...

And you're fathering children with one woman, while dating another, and planning to have even more kids with the other one, and then maybe even with the new ones?

Well, there's only one thing that can really happen...

Absolute disaster.

The potential ruination of Elon Musk, for starters. Which would be a shame. At a certain point, he really should just put his dick away and focus on space. He's 50. Come on. It's not old. It's not young. But it IS embarrassing if you're gonna start strutting around on the world stage with much younger women.

He's skirting extremely dangerous territory here, with not only his own personal fate hanging in the balance, but also the fate of space travel, which is so much more important than he is.

God I hope he doesn't fuck everything up.