Bob Dylan

Quote:I leaned over and kissed his sweaty forehead. It was covered in whiteface. He peered sleepily around the room.

"I dreamed I seen you on TV. At least I think it was a dream. Hard to tell the difference anymore."

"It wasn't a dream, Bob. That was a broadcast from Vienna."

"I must be more tired than I thought."

Bob started running his hand up under my skirt, around the back of my knee and partway up my thigh.

"Wow, you got great legs. Where'd you get them muscles?"

"From rehearsing," I said. "I stand up and rehearse a lot." I took his hand out from under my skirt and placed it on his chest.

"So," he said, "You leavin' already?"

"Yeah, I gotta go."

"That's too bad. You been enjoyin' yourself?"

"Yeah Bob, it's been my favorite tour in the world." And I kissed him again and left.

- Joan Baez, And a Voice to Sing With (paraphrased)
[Renaldo and Clara - The Bedroom Scene]

From the comments:

Quote:It makes me so uncomfortable but I can't stop watching! It's like witnessing a trainwreck. LMAO I feel like this was supposed to be a porno movie but it went wrong, also porn movies have better acting...


I mean, it's hard to argue with that.

I love Bob, but damn...

Renaldo and Clara was one toke over the line.

The best scene was when Ronnie Hawkins (as Bob) was trying to convince "The Girlfriend" (Ruth Tyrangiel) to run away with him.

The ride hitching scene was good too, I was legit invested in that subplot but they never really went anywhere else with it. That should have been the whole movie.
The real reason Bob Dylan and Joan Baez went their separate ways in the '60s was because she wanted him to go hardcore political and champion all the bleeding heart causes, and he didn't want to. She was probably in love with him, sure... but I think her intentions were mostly self-centered and she just wanted him to be everything she wanted him to be instead of what he really was. She wanted him to be her personal "protest hero"... that was her fantasy, and it's a good thing he didn't do what she wanted.
"Shadow Kingdom" (2021) was pretty epic. It was filmed in Commiefornia. He couldn't go on tour and he wanted to put something out because apparently the guy never stops. Too bad about the atrocious masks the band was wearing...

Which leads me around to "Masked and Anonymous" (2003) and its all-star cast. Jessica Lange had a major role in the film, and that alone makes it legendary, with or without Bob.

The tl;dw version of the movie is essentially the tale of a dystopian America after the takeover of a Mexican dictator. At one point in the movie, it makes clear that all of North America and Mexico had merged into one country. The post-flood "doomsday" map of North America was shown in one scene of the film, the untrained eye wouldn't have noticed...

Bob co-wrote the film under the alias Sergei Petrov. He later stated in a 2012 interview with Rolling Stone magazine that he wasn't pleased with the film because they didn't let him say everything he really wanted to, citing the use of "outside money" as the reason for the censorship.

Personally, I think they did their best to honor his wishes and convey the message, albeit within the typical hollywood confines. Before I watched it, I never realized that the future of America it depicts is the most likely, totally obvious direction this country's headed in. All the propaganda wants to distract you with Russia this, China that... but no, the truth is a little farther south.
Essentially, his approach was to write the lines for all the characters and say what he wanted to say through them. Bob's writings have an unmistakable lyricism and tone that can't really be hidden. His character in the movie hardly said anything, and he made sure his own lines were careful so that it wouldn't seem like he was trying to push his views in an overbearing way. It was clear that the other characters' lines were written by him, especially when delivered by Lange... her performance was sheer excellence, as per usual.

Quotes of interest from the film...

Quote:"We've got dead aliens stacked in warehouses!"

This was never explained any further, but the suggestion was that before the whole takeover went down, there was some type of alien disclosure.

Quote:"Keepin' people from bein' free is big business."

Quote:"They build hospitals as shrines to the diseases they create. Masked and anonymous... no one truly knows them."

Quote:"Freedom's only for those who practice self-control."

Quote:"You're like an alchemist who invents some new drug, doesn't care about the side effects."

Quote:"We are re-writing the history books."
That's gotta be some of his best harmonica work ever...

Anointed Bob = Best Bob.

"Hard to Handle" was such a great concert.

I love how the crowd goes wild when he starts in with the harmonica.
'80s Bob = Hottest Bob.
Oh to be a harmonica.
In some of the documentaries and random video clips out there, I've noticed people getting bizarrely physically aggressive with Bob. Especially chicks. But even Johnny Cash did it.

Joan Baez seemed inclined toward that kinda behavior in certain situations. At 0:34 she was kinda being teased but you can tell by the way she handles that one guy, she's not afraid to grab a dude...

The best example has gotta be from Renaldo and Clara...

26:26 Sara gets Bob in a chokehold.

Johnny Cash gives him a thwack on the chest...

4:38 Fiona seems overtaken by the same kind of tendency, only she does it in an adorable and super wholesome way... it's actually one of my favorite clips from this documentary.

Just kinda strange how people seem to get all handsy with him...

Reminds me of "cute aggression"...

I think the chicks act this way with Bob because of his seemingly manageable stature. Maybe subconsciously they feel like they could dominate him because of his size. He took up boxing for fitness at some point, so I'm sure he learned some tricks. He's 5'7", often described as 'hobbit-like', I've heard a lot of random people describe him as small, call him a dwarf, say he looks homeless/like a bum.

In fact, Elton John thought Bob was the gardener when he showed up at one of his parties in the '80s...

Quote:"Bob! We can't have you in those terrible clothes, darling. Come upstairs and I'll fit you out with some of mine at once." John went on to explain that Dylan was "horrified" by his comments. "His expression suggested he was trying hard to think of something he wanted to do less than get dressed up like Elton John, and drawing a blank."
In 2009, some freaked out homeowners called the police on a "suspicious person" wandering around their property...

Quote:24 year old police officer Kristie Buble: "So I said, 'OK Bob, what are you doing in Long Branch?' He said he was touring the country with Willie Nelson and John Mellencamp. We see a lot of people on our beat, and I wasn't sure if he came from one of our hospitals or something. He asked me if I could drive him back to the neighborhood when I verified who he was, which made me even more suspicious."

In 2001, he was held up at a checkpoint at Jackson County Exposition Center in Oregon as he attempted to get into the backstage area of his own concert.

Apparently, his favorite casual attire is hoodies and sweats. One guy said he goes out in public dressed down, sometimes wears wigs, and seems to be able to go into busy places without ever being recognized... very rare for an ultra famous person.

3:30 "I always knew I was gonna be doing this the rest of my life, just as long as I was gonna be alive. I'll be doing this for as long as I'm around. All the people I admire, they've all done it all the way to the end too. It's all I do."

6:11 it's somewhat endearing how Tom Petty sounds and acts like Bob. Hell, he even kinda looks like him. He was only 9 years younger than Bob, so it's not like he's his illegitimate son or something. I guess he was just heavily influenced by him, or maybe it's an archetypal thing. I wore Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers: Greatest Hits the hell out when I was around 8 or 9. Probably some of the first music I ever chose and listened to on my own.
(01-25-2023, 06:57 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: 3:30 "I always knew I was gonna be doing this the rest of my life, just as long as I was gonna be alive. I'll be doing this for as long as I'm around. All the people I admire, they've all done it all the way to the end too. It's all I do."

This is why it kinda pisses me off when people say Bob's too old to be touring, he should have hung up his hat, etc. because he's made it clear since the beginning that he would never stop.

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